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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (5 children)

People fleeing communist countries en mass sure is a mystery. Who could ever know why they built the Berlin Wall or why Cuban families risk their children on rafts to get to a capitalist country

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You are aware that the vast majority of undocumented immigrants are coming to America from other capitalist countries right?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

still

>many cases of people fleeing from communist countries to capitalist ones

>far less cases of people fleeing from capitalist countries to live under communism

most people don't want communism, that's why there are no democratic elections in communist countries and wrongthink is persecuted

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Under communism wrongthink is wanting to profit off the labor of others.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

no, under communism being gay is wrongthink, apparently

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

didn't the USSR prosecute gays?

>inb4 "b-but it wasn't REAL communism, akshually"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

So did the United States untill very recently, what is your point? Advocating for Communism isnt Advocating for a return of the USSR you absolute ham sandwich.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

This reply perfectly highlights why people who have issues with basic logic support communism.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

What issues with basic logic do supporters of Communism have?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

What issues with basic logic do people who support Communism have in common?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Living conditions for the majority of the population in Cuba are far better than in any capitalist Latin American country. This is despite the brutal blockade on Cuba by the burger empire. Please go make a clown of yourself elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

im on latin america and despite being bad over here, i'm a bit skeptical on this one. the blockade is currently making sure cuba can't even get basic medication in sufficient quantities.

i'd say its safer to say they are much better in some aspects, the ones they can control.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The kind of abject poverty you see in Latin American countries simply does not exist in Cuba. Everyone has access to basic necessities, education, and healthcare. Cuba has even higher life expectancy than US.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

when it comes to inequality i can agree its probably among the best, if not the best.

but despite efforts to provide it, they don't always get basic necessities because of the embargo. there is a not insignificant amount of poverty in cuba too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Of course, the blockade is doing incredible amounts of harm. My point is that even despite that, Cuba manages to do a better job ensuring a minimal standard of living than capitalist countries in Latin America. What this shows is that communism performs better under extreme stress than capitalism does under best conditions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

the Berlin Wall

That was fascism.

or why Cuban families

That's kleptocracy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

This might help to explain the siege mentality of socialism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

People move to areas with better material conditions. Assuming that is the fault of Socialism and not of countries being in different stages of development is immaterial and ignores the trajectory of nations, as well as the geopolitical landscape.

For example, in the GDR, education was high quality and free, but wages were lower than in West Germany. Many highly educated people in GDR attempted to leverage their free education for higher wages in the West.

As for Cuba, people fleeing are typically the people prosecuted during the revolution, ie plantation owners. People still flee from less developed to more developed countries, which is why people flee from Capitalist states to other Capitalist states.