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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

People are starving every damn day under Capitalism and there is no famine going on. This isn't the dunk you think it is.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No it isn't, but it does highlight the main issue:

Communism would work if it weren't for people trying to co-opt it for power

Fully Automated Luxury Space Communism is the end goal (since, it being automated, means there should effectively be no way to hijack it), but we ain't getting there for a long time. Let's go for socialism first and work from there

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Communism would work if it weren't for people trying to co-opt it for power

As long as there exists a way to gain power over others, someone will do it. That's just the reality of our nature, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This goes into a fight over philosophy of human nature. However, since the days of the Roman republic over 2000 years ago where capitalism wasn't even a concept, people have used political systems to consolidate and gain power over others. It is undoubtabele that there will be people who try to co-opt the system for their personal gain

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Depends on Mode of Production. Roman society was still a class driven society.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"No, Wrong"

Thank you Donald, very cool!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's just human nature unfortunately. We like to help one another and hate to see another human being suffering because we know that could be us. But capitalism has conditioned and limited us out of our human nature to help one another, because either there is no profit in helping the poor or destitute, or we lack the means to help.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

That’s such a wide eyed idealistic view of the world. Let’s all come together and sing kumbaya.

All people throughout history have always tried to just help each other out, right?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Depends on the dominant Mode of Production, actually. People are shaped by their environment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Its a realistic view of humanity, not a realistic view of the world we have allowed the greediest among us to create. You should read The Dawn of Everything A New History of Humanity, it goes extreme in depth to explain just how wrong your nihilistic view in humanity is, cooperation is the norm, what Capitalism has created is the anomaly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

People are products of the environment. These influence the ideas people have, who then shape their environment which in turn further influences the ideas people have.

Being conditioned by the material conditions of Capitalism is the opposite of Idealism, it's Materialism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

It absolutely is. Coming from an anarchist communist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago