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Tesla’s Autopilot and Full Self-Driving linked to hundreds of crashes, dozens of deaths (www.theverge.com)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

The question isn’t “are they safer than the average human driver?”

How is that not the question? That absolutely is the question. Just because someone is accountable for your death doesn't mean you aren't already dead, it doesn't bring you back to life. If a human driver is actively dangerous and get taken off the road or put in jail, there are very likely already plenty more taking that human drivers place. Plus genuine accidents, even horrific ones, do happen with human drivers. If the death rate for self-driving vehicles is really that much lower, you are risking your life that much more by trusting in human drivers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that person's take seems a little unhinged as throwing people in prison after a car accident only happens if they're intoxicated or driving recklessly. These systems don't have to be perfect to save lives. They just have to be better than the average driver.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Hell, let's put the threshold at "better than 99% of drivers", because every driver I know thinks they are better than average.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Exactly.

We should solve the accountability problem, but the metric should be lives and accidents. If the self-driving system proves it causes fewer accidents and kills fewer people, it should be preferred. Full stop.

Throwing someone in jail may be cathartic, but the goal is fewer issues on the road, not more people in jail.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Because I'm sure that's what corporations are interested in.