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Apple Removes WhatsApp, Threads, Telegram, and Signal from China App Store, says it complied with orders from the Chinese government (arstechnica.com)

submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Apple said it complied with orders from the Chinese government to remove the Meta-owned WhatsApp and Threads from its App Store in China. Apple also removed Telegram and Signal from China.

The New York Times similarly wrote that "a person briefed on the situation said the Chinese government had found content on WhatsApp and Threads about China's president, Xi Jinping, that was inflammatory and violated the country's cybersecurity laws. The specifics of what was in the content was unclear, the person said."

"These apps and many foreign apps are normally blocked on Chinese networks by the 'Great Firewall'—the country's extensive cybersystem of censorship—and can only be used with a virtual private network or other proxy tools," Reuters wrote.

"For years, Apple has bowed to Beijing's demands that it block an array of apps, including newspapers, VPNs, and encrypted messaging services," The New York Times noted yesterday.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (2 children)

App stores were a mistake. We used to get software from its developer or from a source we chose. Now that we expect there to be a central app store, it can be used for censorship.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No they aren't. Locked down restrictive app stores are the problem. App stores can provide visibility to apps that might not get it otherwise. Or help developers reach an audience through a central deployment platform. They can promote better security as well. Making updates easy and prompt. They're more or less at the heart of every Linux/BSD platform for a reason.

Let's be honest. How frequently do you check for updates to every program you installed manually? Even if the program itself notifies you. Are you going to navigate to the website immediately. Find the download link and promptly install for every, single, one. App stores and repositories are literally one of the greatest software inventions of the last 30+ years.

Being locked to a specific store or repository is the problem. Which is why everyone but apple tends to provide solutions. Whether it's side loading, flatpack, app images etc.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is why I also mentioned "a source we chose". On GNU/Linux package managers and F-Droid I can add additional package sources which can be managed by the developer.

Point is, it shouldn't be a thing that Apple or Google or anyone has this kind of power.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Fair enough and agreed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can still do that, it’s called side loading

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Apple will be having none of this "side loading" business 🎩🧐

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can jailbreak and sideload in iOS 17.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Jailbreaking is pretty much by definition not endorsed by Apple.