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Here's a non-paywalled link to an article published in the Washington Post a few days ago. It's great to see this kind of thing getting some mainstream attention. Young children have not made an informed decision about whether they want their photos posted online.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 7 months ago (7 children)

As the internet gets scarier

How the fuck is the internet getting scarier? This isn't the random gore and porn filled, go to a forum and immediately get targeted by a sex-predator, internet that I grew up with. The internet is a corporate walled garden of mega services that feed disinformation and bullshit to people, but your odds of getting genuinely victimized as a child are so much lower than they used to be.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I think it is just a different scary. It is less predators snatching you up in their white van and more social media is totally screwing with people's heads. It is more addictive than ever before. People are have para social relationships with online personalities. All photos you see online have been edited and changed to make them look better. Creating huge body image issues. And that is just the stuff I can think of off the top of my head.

And the preditor in the white van hasn't actually gone away. Their have been some very questionables things over the years that have gotten some news coverage. Spiderman and Elisa shit, some very very questionable Musicly/TikTok video with kids, I have heard about some kids doing ASMR videos. Minecraft YouTubers seem to always end up grooming some kids.

Bottom line the Internet be scary. Stay safe and definitely don't let kids be unattended.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lol, no. Very accessible AI tools can make the pictured kids do whatever the fuck the creator wants. It's easier than ever to steal identities and ruin lives. The internet still is full of porn and gore but that hardly is the problem. Also, brainwashing via social media is a really big and scary problem. The internet absolutely is scarier then aver before.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This applies to adults too though. Should we outlaw posting any pictures of anybody online, just because AI exists? I don't think so...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

The difference with kids is that we don't consider them to have the ability to properly consent or take responsibility for themselves because they haven't fully developed yet. Hence no voting, drinking, driving, sex etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Who's talking about outlawing anything? I simply stated that the internet has indeed become a scarier place compared to the past.

Also, parents are responsible for their kids and the kids aren't capable of consenting to publishing their pictures as they can't understand the implications that come with it. Grown-ups can do whatever the hell they want, though I feel a general education on how the Internet works might be a good idea.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

IMO the "getting scarier" is the swinging back part. Grew up in the same time, my parents were big on "No identifying information to anyone on the internet!" I joke with them now that their generation, the ones that told us to stay off post all their business on facebook and the like.

But that's the thing, you have a small segment of society that was the internet nerds that didn't trust anything on the internet, hid themselves and the like, but now like you say it's the corporate walled garden that's sanitized and happy, which makes that veneer of trust. And boy do people trust it, posting anything and everything.

Odds are lower in percentages of being genuinely victimized as a child, but the lack of paying attention what's posted has lead to a lot of effects, so people are getting worried again.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It was explained in the first paragraph:

A month after her son was born, Samantha Taylor, 30, and her husband came to a realization: They didn’t want photos of their child posted online. They worried about how quickly artificial intelligence was advancing and how the photos could be used in addition to “creeps online in general.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Those where more, how should I put it, 'visual' and 'tangible' threads. Now it's watch out or someone is aggregating all your infornation about you and will use it for some neferarious things...
Which I find is a much wider issue, but is also much more dificult to warn and protect.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

It's not, it's just that with enough mainstream media coverage about scary internet stories normies are slowly waking up to what the internet is and how you should conduct yourself on it. Of course any terminally online person could have told you that 20 years ago but those are not most people. Hell even if you do know better good luck convincing your family, I know I tried for years with negligible results other than one of them now using a password manager.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yes it's much less scary now, and also a bit shit. People are more scared, maybe, but that's not really indicative of reality.