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Some Tesla engineers secretly started designing a Cybertruck alternative because they 'hated' it::"They were like, 'You can't be serious.' They didn't want to have anything to do with it," Franz von Holzhausen said, according to Walter Isaacson.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Good luck getting a base model F150 at a decent price. I tried earlier this year and only 3 dealers East of the Mississippi had the base model and they all wanted $30,000 OVER MSRP. Ford can lick my butt for not making enough base models and trying to push their XLT and platinums starting at $75k. I need a truck to work in not have it open and close the lift gate for me.

At this point I'll take a shit looking truck at a decent price over whatever the duck Ford and their dealers thought was a good idea with producing so little of the base model, not to mention base model with extended range batteries were ONLY available to fleet purchasers.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two years ago I was going to but my first ford, my first truck, AND my first electric because it was the same car. On paper the F150 Lightning seems like the most practical family car ever made. Dealer markup and low volume completely killed it. Ford should eliminate dealerships and sell direct with fixed pricing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It would be great if they just made more base models. They're "sold out" for this year already, but you still can order the luxury trims for trucks that haven't been made yet. I'm not convinced that Ford actually wants to sell any base models.

I walked away and bought a Bolt EUV instead.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are actually allowed to buy directly from the manufacturer. Contact the Ford plant. They'll sell it to you at MSRP

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Not the pro model (base model). You can order direct for all other trims though