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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/13945837

has the whole world gone crazy?

mark it, Dude.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

How many fucking times do I have to explain it?

No one knows your chosen third party candidate exists, and unless you want to become their campaign manager that will still be true in November. Even if you did, they still wouldn't win.

In the last election, Biden got 50% of the popular vote, and Trump got 45%. Say for the sake of argument that if nothing else happens, 2024 will have the exact same spread. Suppose you're the best campaign manager ever and manage to convince 2/3 of the people who would have voted for Biden, plus everyone who was going to vote third party, to vote for your candidate instead. (Given the current state of money in politics I should not need to explain why this is infeasible, but suppose it is.) Congratulations! Your candidate now has 37% of the nationwide vote. Unfortunately, that's not good enough, because Trump's voter base, who care not for your leftist policies, still gave 45% of the vote to him, and he wins the election.

All voting third party instead of Biden does is make it more likely that Trump will win.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You seem to think you’re explaining, over and over, how voting works to people who don’t know how voting works, but they do know. You’re enlightening no one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I have demonstrated that voting third party is inviting a Trump victory, yet these people who supposedly already understand everything I say insist that this is not the case. What's not clicking?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

what's not clicking is that half of the "people" trying super hard to make biden into the antichrist actually do want trump to win and are arguing disingenuously.

the time to complain about biden was the last three years, the time to complain about trump is now.

if their only political opinion is about how bad biden really is... and they never talk about trump, russia or ukraine...
then it's a duck

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Are these bots in the room with us now? https://lemmy.ml/comment/9279492

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

judging by your wall of sources, pretending like they're related to what i'm actually saying, it appears that you are indeed in the room...

also, you're a sea lion

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They’re all related to your BlueAnon conspiracy theory about Russian bots, which you didn’t explicitly state but clearly meant to imply.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

nope, i'm not blue, not blueanon...
not implying what you pretend you think i'm implying...
you're deliberately fighting a strawman

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

half of the “people”

Why are people in quotes? Because you mean bots, meaning paid shills and/or software “arguing disingenuously,” and not regular people posting earnestly/organically.

if their only political opinion is about how bad biden really is… and they never talk about trump, russia or ukraine… then it’s a duck

What “duck” are you alluding to? Russian bots.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

why wouldn't russian bots talk about russia?

they're pure blooded american trump supporters arguing in bad faith, simple as