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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How that preclude these models from being creative?

They lack intentionality, simple as that.

Either way, generative tools are a great way for the people using to create with, no model has to be creative on its own.

Yup, my original point still stands.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How is intentionality integral to creativity?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are you serious?

Intentionality is integral to communication. Creative art is a subset of communication.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was asking about creativity, not art. It's possible for something to be creative and not be art.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I still posit that ceativity requires intentionality.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think all creativity requires intentionality. Some forms of creativity are the accumulation of unintentional outcomes, like when someone sets out to copy a thing, but due to mistakes or other factors outside their control end up with something unique to what they were going for.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The intentionality steps in when it is decided to keep or discard the outcome.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How can it be creative to destroy outcomes? Destruction is the opposite of creativity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The creative process necessarily involves abandoning bad ideas and refining to something more intentional

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. That is literally the only difference between "creative" and "non-creative" people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But you can still be creative if you keep every outcome, it would be very hard to prove creativity if you discard everything. The one could argue you're creative the moment you select something.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

What point are you trying to make, again?