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How to demonstrate to people the importance of privacy by showing the data collected about them? (lemm.ee)
 

I wish to convince my friends and family to avoid using privacy-invading ad-based services and apps. Seeing people discuss how much data these companies collect off of us, I want to know if there is a way you could get a sample of that data by yourself and show it to them for them to realize the gravity of the situation themselves.

The closest thing is Google's ad personalization panel in the Google Account Dashboard. It literally lists out the information of the account holder by the things they've browsed, including their gender, age, occupation, interests etc. I could've used it to show to my family but I turned off ad personalization for all their accounts a few years back so they aren't even aware of it.

The next closest thing to this could be browser fingerprinting tests but they wouldn't be able to understand the tech jargon from the results anyway. Also I am not planning to go to the 'deep web' for this. Is there any other way I could get this done, like a website/app specifically designated for this purpose, for opening some sort of userlog in the accounts page?

How to use ProtonMail in my Android phone without letting Google know about my Proton account? in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I sincerely thank you for understanding my situation and giving me actually useful advice.

How to use ProtonMail in my Android phone without letting Google know about my Proton account? in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I am just a casual person who takes privacy a bit more seriously than the general public. To be frank, I don't even use Google services that much. I just wished to end my reliance on Google due to what I learned about their practices. However I can only go so far. I have a busy life and I do all these privacy related work during my free time. I don't have a GrapheneOS compatible android phone, I don't have the liberty to switch to a new phone, and I don't have the knowledge to set up a custom ROM. I just want to take as many measures to increase my privacy without going to extreme measures like rooting my phone or setting up pihole.

I've tried to use alternatives from f-droid. switched to firefox (specifically mull), disabled unnecessary permissions and telemetry from Google apps etc. However, seeing all of the comments here suggesting actions that I am simply unable to take feels like all the other things I've done so far have been in vain and I should just succumb to Google's spying, which I am feeling to do indeed especially after learning how much data Google has collected about me, making privacy in my phone virtually nonexistent.

How to use ProtonMail in my Android phone without letting Google know about my Proton account? in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm sorry, but I do not have the time, experience or knowledge to set up custom ROMs in my device at the moment.

How to use ProtonMail in my Android phone without letting Google know about my Proton account? in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Manufacturer's version of Android. I've logged in the apps with multiple Google accounts.

While I could consider using my browser instead of apps for all google related services, I don't think outright removing the accounts from my phone since Google has mandated use of mobile verification (the one where they ask to choose the correct option from the three given number) and I don't want to provide them a phone number for SMS verification. I fear I would be locked out of my Google accounts if I don't have them signed in in my phone directly.

I tried checking Shelter, however it says it is best optimized for Pixel phones and grapheneOS (which I have neither of) and you already said sandboxing in Android sucks, thus it may not be beneficial to go through all that effort to setting up the separate profiles if it isn't even going to work well.

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How to use ProtonMail in my Android phone without letting Google know about my Proton account? (lemm.ee)
 

I have been slowly degoogling my life by reducing my use of Google apps and switching to FOSS alternatives. I recently created a Proton account and tried to keep it completely isolated from my default Google account so as to not let it know what my Proton mail identity is. I have finished my transition in my desktop to the best of my ability and am planning to start the same with my mobile. The only thing I have done in my Android phone related to Proton is having downloaded ProtonVPN and signed into my account within the app. However I fear by downloading ProtonMail and signing into it, my Android phone would identify the email account, which could make this entire transition useless. Is there a way to avoid this situation or has the damage already been done. What does Google know about my Proton account, if at all?