wildginger

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Do.... No, hold on. You just said the stupidest thing Ive seen so far on this AI debate. Do you think learning is only possible if you are an equation?

If I lock you in a dark sound proofed room, can you talk? Can you still think? Can you create new thoughts? If I take away all possible X inputs, are you suddenly paralyzed, with no way to create new Y outputs? (The answer is, obviously, that you can still think without fresh constant inputs.)

Chatgpt get locked in the same room. Can it respond? Can it develop new outputs with no input? Can it change its internal understandings? If you leave chatgpt alone, unbothered, will its internal data shift? Will the same X inputs suddenly produce Y outputs, even with fixed rng? (No. No it wont.)

Retaining information is not an equation. My memories and chatgpts server storage is not the thing that makes us definably different. The actual processing of the information is. Chatgpt takes an input, calculates it, spits out an output, and then ceases. Stops. Ends. The process completes, and the equation terminates.

You and I dont black out when we dont get inputs. We generate multilevel thoughts completely independently, and often unpredictably and unreproducably.

Youre falling for a very complex sleight of hand trick.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

No one said anything about electricity. A calculator can exist on paper, or stones on sticks.

No one said anything about souls. Please dont make up shit no one said.

I am not an equation. I do not take X input to produce Y output. My thoughts do not require outside stimuli. My thoughts do not give the same output for the same input. I can think, and ambulate and speak, inside a dark room with no stimulus based entirely on my own thoughts.

Chatgpt, and other language models, are equations. They trick you by using random number generation to simulate new outputs to repeat inputs, but if you open the code running the equation and learn how to fix the rng to a set value, you get the same outputs for each input.

Its not thought. Its an equation.

I am not saying non organic thought isnt possible. I am saying that a salesman pointed at a very very very big calculator and said "it definitely thinks! Its more than an equation!" And you, along with a lot of news outlets, fell for it.

We do not have machine brains yet. Someone just tried to sell calculators as if they were.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Oh, thats easy. Im not an equation running on a calculator.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (14 children)

It is not a measure of validity. It is a lack of capacity.

What is the experience of a chair? Of a cup? A drill? Do you believe motors experience, while they spin?

Language models arent actual thought. This isnt a discussion about if non organic thought is equivalent to organic thought. Its an equation, that uses words and the written rules of syntax instead of numbers. Its not thinking, its a calculator.

The only reason you think a language model can experience is because a marketing man missttributed it the name "AI." Its not artificial intelligence. Its a word equation.

You know how we get all these fun and funny memes where you rephrase a question, and you get a "rule breaking" answer? Thats because its an equation, and different inputs avoid parts of the calculation. Thought doesnt work that way.

I get that the calculator is very good at calculating words. But thats all it is. A calculator.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Language models dont experience things, so it literally cannot. In the same way an equation doesnt experience the things its variables are intended to represent in the abstract of human understanding.

Calling language models AI is like calling skyscrapers trees. I can sorta get why you could think it makes sense, but it betrays a deep misunderstanding of construction and botany.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, its ok to torture them because some people who are in the same religion as them are ok with it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Removing a bookmark is easier to remove than an app

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Is that not the literal point of copying reddits homework with the sub format?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

By hiding the evidence, you cast doubt on the reaction to the statement.

Youre already doing the work for them.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

........ This is nazi defending rhetoric. Do you understand that? Do you understand why eliminating the evidence and trying to hide it is defending and supporting the nazi?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

He responded to it, calling it the complete truth

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Its not hard to delete an app and not download it again

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