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Just to be the super-nerd, octopus is not a regular latin word.
I think it is actually a greek loan word in latin.

So the plural is either octopodes to follow the original greek or octopuses in regular english.

That asshole doesn't deserve a meme, cmm.

Just use Calvin.

It is possible he doesn't like the texture of mushrooms.

If I am somewhere and am served squeaky mushroom sponges I don't like them either.

I didn't want to reply at all because it is starting to get ridiculous and noone else keeps reading this.

But please just for the sake of being honest, show me where I am intolerant or hateful?
I replied to other comments in this thread as well, there should be plenty to pick from.

Show me my intolerance, show me my hate.

I even make it easier for you.

I think religion is a cancer to society.
I think all religions are basically cults.

Make a straightforward argument how my statements are either hateful or intolerant.

Because while those statements are my honest opinion, I am still strongly in favour of freedom of religion.
I would never forbid anyone from practicing their religion as long as they don't infringe on someone else's rights in doing so.
I don't hate anyone for being religious. There are wonderful religious people.

Still I think they are wonderful despite their religion, not because of it.

I don't even hate you, despite your ongoing insults towards me.
I just think you are very wrong on a fundamental level and haven't yet learned to deal with being told so.

Reported.

I think you understand neither what a skepticist is, nor how religion or free churches work.

Well you're wrong in both, but I am curious why you would think that.

And by your logic I assume you have to be an anarchist,

Hilariously wrong here.

since every government that ever existed - or society for that matter - has exercised some form of suppression.

Care to explain what that has to do with anything I said in this thread?

I think your overgeneralizing, intollerant way of thinking is sickening and hardly better than that of a racist or sexist.

And I think you resort to personal insults because you have no valid arguments against my positions.
But please humor me and tell me how I am intolerant in an comparable way to a racist or sexist.

And please don't tell me what my beliefs are. That's pretty church-y of you.

I'm a pansexual protestant Christian

Are you kidding me? You told about your beliefs yourself.

And it's especially rich after your whole post made assumptions about me.

The sheer arrogance to post a philosophical minority opinion paired with an insult and then end it with a sigh.

And while I am not particularly familiar with Mr. Antony's work I can tell you that he either didn't understand or purposefully misused Hitchen's Razor insofar as you indeed can not apply it to Atheism the same way you can apply it to christianity.
The reason for that being that there is no particular thing at all you have to believe to be an atheist.
Atheism in and of itself doesn't assert anything at all.
So there is nothing that could be dismissed.

Atheism says there is no reason to believe in god.
How does Hitchen's Razor dismiss that? It doesn't.

Not to mention your quote still is no argument towards the positive existence of god.

And if you don't show me how I am supposed to be intolerant, I will take it as the baseless insult that it is and will no longer discuss with you.

We're using fancy words now to seem smart?
Works better if you know what they mean.

And I don't have any problem believing that vast majorities of a population can fall to a cult.
I mean in the middle ages people didn't even have a choice about their religion and I hope you are not trying to tell me crusades and literal witch hunts are not cult behaviour.

I did what now?

I said there are millenia worth of disproven lies.
Which there are.

Like that the whole world was flooded and repopulated by one single family, which is disproven by DNA samples.
Or that it is gods will that priest stay unmarried, which is historically agreed that it was a measure to keep wealth inside the church organization.
Or so so many more.

I never said there was prove god doesn't exist.
And like I said, there doesn't need to be as long as there is no documented sign whatsoever that points towards god actually existing.

No it doesn't go both ways.

If something exists it should be easy to prove.
There should be some form of sign of it.

On the other hand it is hard to disprove the existence of anything at all.
How do we know there is not some teapot in outer space?

We can't.
But that is no reason to believe there is one.

Hey first and foremost, thanks for the good faith discussion.

I want you to be reassured that I don't hate you for your religion.
And I don't think you or any religious person is necessarily dumb.
We just happen to fundamentally disagree on certain points that seem to hold at least some value for both our lives.

And I will gladly admit that believing in god has the fundamental difference to believing in a flat earth that you described. The flat earth is soundly disproven and the existence of god is not.

I would in reply try to refine my point to saying that I think believing in god is comparable to believing in the easter bunny or the often quoted flying spaghetti monster (that I purposefully didn't want to invoke earlier).

Yes you are absolutely free to believe in any of those things.
I would fight to defend your right to believe in them.

But I cannot ever accept it as truth or even an educated opinion to hold without any proof pointing specifically towards the existence of any god.

And not to end on a negative note.
I love life around me, I love nature, I love animals.
I think the world is a wonder.

I do not believe any god made it the way it is.
I have no reason to believe that.
I just love it for itself.

What now?

I don't think anyone but you believes this thread is about wether extremism is unique to religion.

Obviously there are other forms of dangerous extremism.

Nazis were pretty fucking extremist.
Now they were not (at least not primarily) extremist Darwinists off course, but extremist racists and antisemites (among other things).

But the meme makes the insecure loser guy say "We should be fighting religion".
And what I think this thread truly highlights is, that a majority in it doesn't see it as a loser thing to fight religion.

Ffs fighting racists and fascists is way more important than fighting religion at this specific point in history.
Still religion is also a cancer that should be fought in my opinion, and seemingly in others as well.