This is not about "my services", this is about getting people to migrate away from walled gardens like Reddit and Discord. People are more likely to act if they hear from someone closer to them, don't you think?
rglullis
joined 1 year ago
No, what I mean is replace what is on Discord by Matrix, and whatever is on Reddit with Lemmy.
If the mods are well liked and act in the interest of their users, even better. I'd be willing to support them with whatever they need in terms of technical support and how to migrate a whole community.
So the change to Discord was more of a practical one than any fundamental disagreement with the Fediverse alternatives.
In the case of Discord, perhaps a Matrix space (analogous to Discord servers) could be created instead ?
they actually are one of the communities that held a vote, and they voted to stay on Reddit rather than migrate to Lemmy.
That's interesting. Can you link me to this discussion or poll? Reddit search, as usual, is not showing much.
Ok, so I created [email protected]. Follow-up questions:
- Do you want to become a moderator for it?
- If there is anyone you know from Reddit that you'd like to help migrate to this community, can you tell them to join via https://portal.alien.top? This will log them in *via Reddit and automatically subscribe them to lemmy communities that correspond to the the subreddits they joined.
- While the community here is empty, would you be interested in having the content mirrored to the community (via alien.top?)
If I may ask, what subreddit is that, and how big it is?
Even with "all the fuck ups from Twitter", their traffic is down only 4-5%.
It's going to take a lot more than just waiting for them to fuck up. Network effects are real and the big companies spent the last 18 years making sure that they built enough moat around their fiefdoms.
Protests are not enough. "Strikes" were the leaders announce beforehand how long they will paralyze is not enough. Depending on moderators who are more worried about losing their status with their masters is not enough.
We need to treat this as a fight. Get all the tooling that can be used to make as easy as possible to migrate and ensure that people can get their dose of dopamine away from Reddit. Then things will start looking better.
I know that is a big ask, but would you be interested in helping bootstrapping these communities here? I recently created https://healthy.community/c/mindfulness and https://sfw.community/c/foodporn as part of my fediverser project, but these are not communities that I am not personally invested in. It would be a lot better if someone already helped to shape its general direction.
I think ask_historians is in itself a community with such an specific goal that it makes it hard to be subdivided, but I see your point. The bigger question is how this could be replicated for other communities, if at all.
If my theoretical approach causes people to leave, that’s OK.
Right, but that will also mean that the community will no longer be "big". That's my point.
If mods started going as far as deleting threads on the basis of "this discussion is already beaten to death and is not bringing anything new", you can bet that this will be taken as an act of "censorship" and will cause everyone to leave to form their own factions - except maybe the ones that are aligned with the mods enough to understand the principles behind the decision.
The extent of how single-topic a community is depends on the community and moderators. I don’t know what you’re trying to say here.
The discussion started because OP wants to have "more hard tech" and less "tech biz news". How do you think you'd enforce that, and how would you avoid splitting the ones that do not agree with that direction?
On HN, it's easy to avoid splittering the community because there is no "sub-HN". The ones that are not interested or oppose the guidelines have no other option but to leave.
On Reddit or Lemmy, it's quite easy to "fork" a community or simply creating another for the more specific niches. So you don't end up with a single /c/technology, but instead we get a "popular" /c/technology (for the lowest denominator) and the more specific "/c/hard_tech" or "/c/true_tech".
It's still baffling for me that none of their "budget-cloud" (Hetzner, OVH) providers have not gotten into this segment of taking open source packages and offer as a turn-key system.