pinkdrunkenelephants

You know that some people on the left also opposed the lockdowns and that it's not and wasn't all right wingers, don't you? r/lockdowncriticalleft ring a bell?

Or do you think you can weasel your way out of taking responsibility for serious moral crimes against humanity as a whole with blatant shit smearing?

You understand what you did is wrong regardless of who is telling you, right? Even if I was some Trumptard dipshit, I would still be right, because the litany of horrific shit you pulled for the first two years of this decade is still wrong on its face. If it was them doing it, you'd have gone to war and attempted to overthrow the government over it.

Nice job proving that most humans are shit, though. That's absolutely a move a shit human would pull.

Perhaps. I have seen it happen literally way too may times myself to really be able to treat it as anything but. I take your point though.

You know you can't use your fear of death to justify atrocities, right? Isn't that what you believe, that some things are wrong regardless of the outcome? Isn't that you tell rape victims when they demand justice or revenge when your system refuses to do anything about their attackers, or domestic violence victims when you imprison them for killing their abusers? You know, the same crimes you enabled and sent soaring through the roof because of your actions?

You think those dead victims benefitted from the lockdowns? You think their lives were a suitable sacrifice for yours? You think the right wing is going to take you seriously when you talk about life or death or justice, knowing what you did? You think they aren't emboldened enough now after protesting you to kill millions of us? You think you didn't just cause more to die in more obscene and brutal ways because you chose selfishness over righteousness? You think you have the right to subvert everything and everyone just to save yourself?

You really think that's how morality works? Because let me tell you, it doesn't.

They're both immoral regardless of any mental health issues.

You just don't understand that they're using the possession argument to get their foot in the door to convince you to accept pedophilia.

It's an incremental approach often taken by evil people and organizations and it's been done before to great effect, e.g. everyone accepting government surveillance, to the point where we carry surveillance devices wherever we go, when back only 30 years ago it would have been considered unconscionable.

The possession argument is their strongest one because the possibility of affecting non-pedos makes people feel more sympathetic toward actual pedos and convinces people to accept removing one of the most important social guardrails we have against them.

The truth is that the possession argument is a nothingburger anyway because

1. Feds are not stupid and know the difference between actual pedos and who is not, and will acknowledge their victims -- of which websites like .world are in a serious way

2. The possession problem can be got around through official CSAM filters that major corporations already use and can be built by the feds, who can create an open API for everyone to use. Meaning there's no excuse for someone to just have CP on hand unless it's obvious they're being victimized with it like .world is

3. The risk of some hapless website owner getting caught up in possession laws are worth the risk to ensure as close to an absolute ban on CP as we can get. CP is too dangerous and pedophilia is too harmful for humanity for everyone in society to not be willing to accept that.

They, like all apologists, are banking on you taking their word on face value without thinking critically about what they're saying or asking for. CP is like social nuclear waste; just being exposed to it at all extremely damages people. Don't fall for their shit.

what does this even mean? you mean with people hoarding CSAM shouldn’t be charged because they’re not distributing it?

He's just a dirty MAP apologist. Ignore him.

The conversation presupposes they will. Actually, that's exactly what the others were saying. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt, bro.

The legal system simply is illegitimate, and the fact that can happen is one of the Mt. Everest high pile of reasons why

That doesn't give them the right to jail you indefinitely. This system lies and tells you we all have rights, but if they can just do that forever because you insulted or angered a judge, then you need to realize it is just a lie and we don't have rights. It's the same authoritarianism people fought and died to erase from the world. Judges can't be allowed to just do what they want.