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I would say there's been a mass migration from Twitter to Mastodon and from Reddit to Lemmy. The current numbers are still a small fraction of the original services, but the federated services have reached a critical mass where they now offer comparable value. YouTube hasn't been ubiquitous for that long and it's already pretty enshittified. I see a lot of people who are fed up with it and looking for an alternative. The peertube platform is there, I think with more people and content and it'll join the ranks.

Me if that happens:

jk, i barely use YT as it is. I'm waiting for the YT ToS update that causes a mass migration to peertube

I'm convinced Mark Zuckerberg had a wet dream about pupil tracking when he bought Oculus.

People who are proud of getting a good deal via an app break my heart. Most folks I know like that are not strapped for cash. They just like the feeling of getting a bargain. They don't consider that the prices are artificially inflated. They don't need the sale item. And in the long run they'll probably end up paying more when the stores know their purchasing habits and have A/B tested them enough to know how to provide as little as possible while charging as much as a customer can stomach.

If a coupon requires an app, I don't by that item. Especially when it comes to groceries. When it comes to store cards, most let you use a phone number instead of scanning the card. So plug in a random number at checkout. You can often get a hit on the first try. Then pay in cash. Dirty up someone else's data and give these stores nothing on you. Seriously, if people keep giving in, it's guaranteed to get worse. First the store card, then the app, what's next?

I'm with you 100% up to the "little recourse," I think there's more options now than there have ever been. Open source (including linux and self hosting) are about the only tech-future things I'm genuinely excited about.

There's still a learning curve and progress to be made, for sure. However, anecdotally, I've seen programming and hosting become vastly more accessible in the last 15 years. Also, not everyone needs to self host, people just need to know someone who is willing and able to set them up.

Not saying it's a guarantee, but it's a possible way out, at least. And being here on lemmy, reading and writing about these issues is a good sign there's movement in the right direction.

And all that data probably takes up less room than a few pictures, could easily be stored locally, and encrypted locally before backing up on a server. But why give individuals control and privacy over their own behavior and history when you can sell it to anyone and keep the profits for yourself? /s

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I've been surprised by how effective it's been to say, respectfully, "this is important to me," maybe adding "here's why." Got all my siblings, mom, SO, and best friend on Signal, that's a vast majority of my online conversations.

reddit is orders of magnitude bigger then lemmy, but I find lemmy high quality and has more people with similar values- more than i could ever keep up with.

Back when Adobe went subscription-only, I stopped using it on my personal work and devices even though a lot of my previous work depended on it. Had to switch to different tools, but now there are better options. Not only has Adobe stagnated, but they caused an even bigger exodus when they messed with the ToS to train ai on user data.

I switch to linux a few years ago and now when I have jobs that use windows I realize how clunky it actually is, and it's only getting worse while linux has been getting better.

I'm fully degoogled (also a graphineOS user). It took me years to eliminate each service, but I was sick of these giant companies that could never give me the things I wanted because in interferes with what they want (ad revenue). The only thing you can do is take it all back. Participate as little as possible. These companies will not stop getting worse while people continue to use them.

It can be inconvenient, time-consuming, and hard, but there are options, and it is a lot easier now than it was a decade ago. I see no reason why it wont continue to get easier and more accessible. That's why it's important for tech savvy folks to do what they can, now, and make it easier for those who come after them. Personally, I've done a lot for myself, but need to learn more about hosting securely so I can offer close friends and family better alternatives that they can easily access.

I wanted something similar from a remote company I was working for. They were pretty good about fulfilling requests, but when I asked for a good kvm switch they said they had trouble in the past and instead recommended a usb hub that can toggle between machines. Then connect both machines to the same monitor and toggle the input. Not ideal, but low cost and functional. Might not suit your needs (would be annoying if you have to frequently toggle back and forth), but if you're just trying to share your desk space between a work machine and personal, and the monitor input is easy to toggle, it's worth considering.

I don't think they have the ux advantage that their wealth suggests due to misaligned incentives. A good portion of their investment is getting users to see as many ads as they will tolerate. Try to modify any privacy settings, for example, and the ux is as garbage as amazon.

Fediverse and self hosted, open source alternatives are still relatively new. Folks have to expect some turbulence. As things grow and more bug reports and contributions can be made, the ux could be superior because they can give users what they want instead of maximizing monetization.

Misskey is a federated facebook alternative I heard about on mastodon recently. I'm not too familiar with it myself, but seems worth mentioning.

It has a "groups" feature that might avoid the "instance per person" lemmy workaround you were thinking about. According to this comparison misskey doesn't have a like button, but a few of its forks do. Not sure about the upload experience; may depend on the app. I didn't see any clients listed on their site but did a quick search for an iOS app, which exists, so i assume android, too.

Sorry I don't have more info, but I hope that's useful. Best of luck! I'll be looking for a similar solution in the near future.

From my research, Patreon takes a smaller cut than YouTube Premium. Comparing YouTube Premium to its own ad model is a "Worst Negates the Bad" fallacy. From what I gathered (not easy to find and has changed over time) YT takes 30% from the former and 45% from latter. Seems insanely high. More than taxes. May be why so many creators need sponsors and hawk merch.

YouTube never supporting 3rd party apps seems like a negative.

Lots of suitable alternatives to youtube: read a book, listen to music, go for a walk, hang with friends, play games, etc, but to your point, sounds like a monopoly. Their search was once great, then ubiquitous, now terrible. YouTube Premium is just in the "entice users and creators" phase of its inevitable enshittification.

Don't mean to dump on something you like, just disagree with the reasoning. If you're not fine with Premium and hate giving money to google, sounds like you'll eventually seek out alternatives when they go into profit maximization mode. Hopefully enough resources will have been invested in viable alternatives by that time.

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downvotes? I'm guessing you may have offended some folks by badmouthing their favorite toy.