novibe

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Ok what evidence do you have the DPRK is not a democracy and it’s more authoritarian than any other state on Earth?

You keep just repeating propaganda talking points, whether you’re aware or not. Give me actual evidence to your beliefs.

No, “most democratic country” lists don’t count…

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No “farmer” was “murdered”… Kulaks were killed yes, but they were the counterrevolutionary forces that were burning food supplies. They were literally in armed struggle against the state and were committing acts of terrorism. What do you suppose was the correct response against them?

Reminding you that most were not killed, and were just arrested.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

I have read plenty.

And yes, a lot, the vast majority, of what you read in the west about the DPRK is CIA propaganda. The CIA has many media groups and think tanks around Asia to spew propaganda agains the “enemies” of the US. Just search for the sources for the articles, and you’ll see places like Radio Free Asia, which is a literal CIA front.

And there is no freedom of movement? In what way? The border with China is open, there are many many North Koreans living and working in China.

They don’t have access to western media, yes, that spews virulent propaganda such as the examples I gave before, which are literal news stories from the west.

You think a country should allow in straight up propaganda from countries that want to destroy them? Does that make any sense?

Like you can go there! It’s not that hard! You can see how people live, you can talk to them. Unless you truly believe North Koreans are all absolutely brainwashed automatons with no individual thoughts, who would you believe more? The people of North Korea or journalists and intelligence agents from the US and other Five Eyes countries?

And most of those “democracy” lists are absolutely bullshit! The US is always at the top, and it’s one of the least democratic countries in the world. You vote for a president, but actually elect delegates who don’t need to vote for your choice at all. The government gerrymanders and creates laws that impede minorities and poor people from voting. Every research about it shows the government represents the will of a minority of like 5% of voters.

Why do you think that is? Most of the organisations that make those lists are just think tanks linked to the American Empire and the neoliberal project.

And why are you being so defensive about the idea North Korea might not be the devil or hell on earth? Why would that be so bad? Why do you have to so aggressively defend the talking points of the Empire against one of the few nations on Earth it doesn’t control..?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

Have you actually read anything on how the government works in the DPRK? Do you know how their elections work?

Or all you know are CIA propaganda talking points from Radio Free Asia, about how there is a “forced crying day”, or how you are forbidden from having the same haircut as Kim Jong Un, or that you are actually obligated to cut your hair just like him etc. etc..?

Is it so hard to believe what is “common knowledge” about the DPRK is mostly bullshit?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

People starved many many times in those places before the communist revolutions. People starved all over the world under many economic systems. Most of the time due to climate events.

That is basically what happened in the two famines you are thinking of. There was extreme drought in Europe and Central Asia for decades, which did kill a lot of people. In Russia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, and yes Ukraine. They also died in Eastern Europe, Southern Europe, parts of the Middle East. Just like many died in the US from massive droughts in the decade before.

What you probably purposefully leave out is how there was never famine again in the USSR. People experienced better caloric intake than the US up until the collapse of the union and neoliberal shock-therapy brought hunger back.

In any case, was there mismanagement during the famine of the 30s? Yea, of course.

Was there sabotage by counterrevolutionaries? Yes, of course.

Who is to blame? Not a single person, and likely not even people in general tbh.

Almost all of this also applies to the famine in China.

So idk, I know the OP doesn’t care and isn’t trying to look for an alternative to his narrative. But others who come in here might take something positive from the comments we leave.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Colonizes all continents on earth, perpetrated the biggest slave trade in history, only decolonizes well after WW2 literally the last country on earth to do so

“Just doing our own thing” lmao

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Americans downvoting you, mad they are the bad guys.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

It’s a weird story, and I feel at worst Walken is involved. But yeah, even with this I still feel Walken is not one of the worst.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

South Korea is literally cyberpunk hell on earth…

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

So happy they keep killing themselves!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

There’s some evidence Walken and Robert Wagner maybe were having an affair, and Robert and Natalie had a big fight over it. One person on the boat heard a loud noise after they were fighting, and Robert went back to his cabin right after it. But Natalie was taking pills and drinking a lot as well.

Truth is, the police never really made Robert or Walken to be suspects, even though they are really the only suspects in this. I mean honestly who cares maybe it was just an accident.

I don’t think Walken personally killed Natalie Woods tho.

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