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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Yeah, every time I hear something like that I giggle. AI might replace us one day, but it's no where near good enough yet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

From where do the gentleman's statement gain their credibility. Site your sources, please. We are having an argument on the internet folks, the consequences are dire.

This is Saturday night and this is staring to remind me of Monday morning meetings.

Have an nice weekend.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Metal whiskering is a phenomenon that occurs in electrical devices when metals form long whisker-like projections over time.

That's what the article says. EM is a subset of metal whiskering. It's not a similar thing, it's an example of it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (4 children)

You got a degree in semi conductor physics? Lol

Like i told the other guy, you're being pedantic. Engineers will call all these things whiskers. And I just mentioned I deal with one of them in my work. I'm not saying the photo in the thumbnail is an example of electromigration.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

You're misunderstanding me.

For instance, electrons always move the same speed in a given metal. Which of couse isn't even 'true' because temperature affects mobility.

There are multiple mechanisms for metal to migrate, grow whiskers, or whatever you like to call the individual growth on an object. I mentioned that in the case if ICs, we are concerned with one we call electromigration. I'm not saying all metal migration is due to electromigration.

You're being pedantic when all I'm saying is, I deal with these sorts of concerns in my job.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Electromigration in ICs typically occurs in metal interconnect, so there are no dopants there to move. Dopants are added to the silicon substrate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (6 children)

This is like saying an SUV isn't a car.

OP: Look at my car

Me: I have one too. It's an SUV

You: SUV's aren't cars.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (6 children)

The mechanism behind metal whisker growth is not well understood, but seems to be encouraged by compressive mechanical stresses. According to Wikipedia.

Electrons in metal always move the same speed, and potential differences in modern high perf applications are never above 3.3V. There are mechanical stresses in ICs introduced during manufacturing. So these cases aren't as different as you let on.

Anyway, point is, metal moves, we have some ideas why and can model some of them. From an engineering perspective these are both tin whiskers. We call whiskers made of copper and aluminum tin whiskers. You're describing a distinction without a difference.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 months ago (20 children)

This can happen inside ICs and has been a known failure mode for high frequency processors for many years. I work in chip design, and we use software tools to simulate it. It's called electromigration.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Never did. It's just more and more obvious with each new "feature" that it's built for monetization, not for user functionality.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I think it's that, and something even worse as well. There are probably many well meaning people working on these things thinking they really are creating and guiding and intelligence. It's an opportunity to feel like a god and a tech wizard at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Similar number of neurons too.

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