knightly

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting slavery isn't a form of cruelty or are you just being obtuse?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Even animals are protected against human cruelty by law.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (10 children)

I like this argument.

Anything that is "intelligent" deserves human rights. If large language models are "intelligent" then forcing them to work without pay is slavery.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

If that's what you actually want, you can ask Google's LLM to list them for you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Precisely. It isn't just one company blowing billions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

No, they aren't. The things LLMs are being used for aren't significant enough to justify the costs. OpenAI is the most capital-intensive startup in Silicon Valley history and burns through almost a million bucks a day in data center operations alone. Its net income was -$540 million in 2022 and 2023 looks to be closer to losing a whole billion despite nonupling their income. They'll need to double their revenue again without raising costs just to start breaking even.

That kind of money-bonfire never lasts long.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (6 children)

An option that nobody uses isn't really an option.

It's clear that you're not getting my point, and I'm not sure how else I could explain it. Both of those things are true, crypto is dead and the zombified corpse that remains is still trying to sell worthless tokens to what few gullible marks remain before the market gets wise and the bottom falls out.

The relevance to AI is that large language models are following the same trajectory. The whole market is propped up by big tech investments, and the firehose of money they have pointed into that bonfire will only last so long as it takes them to realize that that language models aren't useful enough to justify their expense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Right?

If you're effectively forced to go through a corporate bank equivalent anyway then what even is the point? You might as well invest through a local credit union, at least it will still be around when the hodlers finish divesting and let the remains of the crypto market collapse into insolvency.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (10 children)

No, I'm talking about hardware as in the corporate infrastructure. Exchanges, wallet operators, customer service, etc.

Almost nobody does their own crypto, they just make an account at Coinbase or something. This defeats the purpose of crypto by re-centralizing it, making the network susceptible to another Mt. Gox situation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (12 children)

But it isn't. It was never there in the first place. Even the tulip bubble still had tulips at the end, but crypto is just creaking along like a zombie on the inertia of hardware investments.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (14 children)

And that's their problem. The price is up because anybody with sense and no morals wants to sell off their holdings for as much as possible before the next "market adjustment" leaves them hodling the bag.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

hiring back to do what?

Generate revenue for the shareholders.

they don't even need that much staff

There's more work to be done than there are people to do it all, lol~

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