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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

My intuition would be floor 2, as it is the lowest floor to the ground that isn't underground

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (16 children)

Gender abolitionism usually focuses on roles and rigidity surrounding it, not the idea that we will eventually have no actual genders. Gender is biologically real but all the social constructs surrounding it are not. If this is not what you have read, I'm interested in links.

But there is no world in which I am not a woman - but very much a world where I am happy to reject the social constructs built up around womanhood.

I still posit that anyone that can actually change their gender (not realize it and change presentation and potentially roles) was gender fluid in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yup. My belief is that we are likely to eventually combine the categories of transgender and differences in sexual development (formerly known as intersex) as we discover more about it's biological origins. The vast majority of people have never been karyotyped and have no idea what their chromosomes are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (18 children)

Yes, my point in saying "cured" is that it is a loaded statement but is logically consistent with the idea being trans is inflicted upon you by something external, and that would lead to conversion therapy which has been shown to not work.

There does need to be more research. The current research supports what I've said, and future research could change that. However, at the very least some people are born trans, even if others somehow become trans in some critical early developmental milestone.

As for the idea that the research is seeking evidence of transness being inherit at birth: that is not the case, there have been many attempts to study so called "sudden onset gender dysphoria" or the idea that someone could suddenly become trans, and those studies can't find any evidence for that (other than one that asked TERF parents if it seemed sudden to them, who of course said yes). Other studies have shown that people tend to have a concept of their internal gender from about as soon as they can talk, which is the earliest we could possibly test, indicating that if it is not prenatal then very early in life.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Good to know, thank you for the info. That's really sad.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

That's really sad. It would also explain how she is relating her micropenis, via shame and self-hatred, to being trans.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (11 children)

That's a good point. I haven't browsed 4chan since way before they had any LGBT community/rep visible on it, I don't know what kind of convoluted views they have. Let me guess, some of them unironcally identify as "agp" don't they?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No someone wouldn't, because a core tenet of that theory is the critical points part, there is a separate point that influenced genital development and a separate point that influenced mental gender development.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, exactly.

The word "likely" is just me acknowledging the potential for this view of trans people as being born trans, which is based on research, could change as more research is done.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly. Coming to terms with being trans, when trans people have been seen as nothing but the butt of far too many jokes in damn near all exposure most of us had growing up, is a difficult process rife with cognitive dissonance and defense mechanisms. No one wants to be trans, they just want to be their gender and have to be trans to get that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me. Cis people don't transition their gender even if it's "just for a year", but trans people do try really hard to not be trans especially just before coming out.

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