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And since he never did, why the hell would they expect that?

His shit stains will remain for decades or longer. He will never be gone.

I don't actually like it .. just answering the question very literally.

As a white guy I'll have even more privilege.

I no longer need to worry about how to pay for healthcare after I retire as I'll have to work until I die, now.

I'll get richer, but my kids won't (without my help).

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i am speaking from experience working in a large, k-12 [public] environment

Can you be more specific? Do you have a degree in education? What kind of work were you performing? What grade(s)? How long ago? Are you still there?

i am speaking from experience working in a large, k-12 [public] environment and watching brand new teachers discuss their degrees, and their pay.

Brand new teachers start at the bottom of the salary ladder and typically have a Bachelor's in Education. They then have to do continuing education and frequently end up with their Master's.

Why are you referring to 'teachers' as if to speak about all of them if what you really meant was those who just graduated? Even then, why are you generalizing and dinging all teachers when there also some very brilliant first year teachers and many who are adequate/good, too?

you barely need a degree to be a teacher in the united states

In most cases of actual teachers in the government run, public school setting, who were trained as teachers, they end up having to get a Masters degree and additional continuing education for as long as they remain a teacher. However, they are desperately under-paid and under-supported.

Once you get into private schools, especially those that are run by churches, all bets are off. This is just one of the many reasons that not even a single dollar of taxpayer money should be going to charter/private schools.

You also have stupid places that let anyone with some random skill teach with the belief they have the capacity to be a teacher and that's just not true. Teaching is actually a very specialized skill that most people simply don't have. You can be a brilliant mathematician and a horrible teacher. You may be the world's best welder (with all of the requisite knowledge of metallurgy, engineering, safety, etc.) and be a horrible teacher.

If you're going to bad-mouth teachers, then please be more specific than just a lazy trope. Another urban legend that needs to go away is the idea that teachers only work 9 months out of the year.

How about nothing? Why do we need to indoctrinate children with any kind of this bullshit?

Our "solution" to gun deaths is to add more guns.