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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (46 children)

in the ethical sense, everything is fair use. period.

in the legal sense, everything is fair use until it's proven in court not to be.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

I don't see how selling a model or the use of a model infringes on a specific copyright. whose copyright has been infringed? how can you prove that? take AI out of the question. if you wanted to prove that some other author has infringed the copyright on your novel, how would you do that? if you want to prove that some quote unquote artist has infringed on your copyright, how would you do that? if any of your methods for proving that a person has infringed on your copyright is applicable to an AI, then that's what that is. but if you can't prove it, if the AI just learned about how style works, if an AI just saw your work but never actually copied it, then it's not infringing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

If you ask the AI to write poetry in the style of the book’s poems and you publish the AI’s poetry, I suspect it might be considered laundering copyright and infringing.

is the image of a cabin in a snowy landscape copyrighted by Thomas kinkade? fuck no. That's an idea. ideas can't be copyrighted. a style isn't a discreet work. it is an idea. it can't be copyrighted. if I produce something in the style of Keats or Stephen King or Rowling, they can't sue me for copyright unless I make a substantially infringing use of their work. The style isn't sufficient, because the style can't be copyrighted.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

this will need to be proved in court

this is true of all fair use. this is almost the definition of fair use. Fair use can only exist after a judge has adjudicated it. before it is questionable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

here's a sidechannel attack on your position: every use, even infringing uses, are fair use until adjudicated, because what fair use means is that a court has agreed that your infringing use is allowed. so of course ai training (broadly) is always fair use. but particular instances of ai training may be found to not be fair use, and so we can't be sure that you are always going to be right (for the specific ai models that may come into question legally).

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

this is better, but it amounts to handwaving and anecdotes. surely you can address the logic of what they said and cite a source instead of saying "look it up"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I do, too, but that's remembering, not forgetting.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

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