burliman

Don’t get me wrong. I use Linux extensively, but mostly server loads and gateways. But have used Mint and Rocky as desktops. So I can’t see how someone can reasonably argue that they have the same polish as Windows (or MacOS) for the average user. Too much command line, too many disparate tools without consistency, just to name a couple.

Linux has its place, but it is not for the average person yet. I wish it would get there, but for decades people have been saying this.

I pay $110 for 2000/2000 fiber. In the US.

I never did until the ad campaigns I’ve see recently that really want me to like foldable phones. No thanks.

Neat. So some of them are nice. Doesn’t make the practice of “optimizing” search a noble deed because some of them think themselves on some high tower. In the end you are trying to push your site above others based on your ability to game the system, rather than relevance of your content. When you do this, I don’t think it’s relevant if you’re a nice person with feelings…

Could be, maybe. Or maybe not. Not sure. But the thing for sure is that forcing the diversity reduces the quality of the model.

Good god please tell me how.

Is there any moderation in this joint?

If you use google images to do basically the same searches you get the same diversity issues. It’s reflecting the training data, and the larger world by extension. Whatever they would have us do to fix that must be applied to reality before it can or should be artificially skewed in AI models. Because if you bias the model to compensate you will create a worse bias. One that was intentional.

Even if you don’t agree with that take, have a look at the Firefly example. they asked for a trucker named Paul, and they got a woman in the result set. Maybe somewhere out there exists a woman trucker named Paul, but it’s a clear reduction in accuracy and quality because Adobe attempted to inject artificial diversity.

Your argument is tired. Have you ever simply prompted a generative txt2img and told it to make 100 or even 200 in the batch? You might have 1 or 2 that shine and are interesting without any touch up. But almost every one will require inpainting, photoshop work, or other creative modifications to be worth a damn. And even then some won’t be.

Like I said in my comment. It will be banal without real creativity. It doesn’t even take millions of “paintings” to get there. No one will care about cheaply manufactured junk after the novelty wears off. We will demand more than that.

Ultimately it will be a tool that extends all our creativity. It already is. But if we fear it because of arguments like yours then laws will be made to keep it out of the hands of the common plebe. But it won’t disappear. You can bet your ass it won’t. It will just be used in dark places by powerful people, and not just for banal image prompting. And then you can fear it rightfully.

And I agree with them. When I learn to paint or take a cool picture, I may learn and be inspired from copyright materials. No one asks successful artists to audit the training materials that inspired them. But start telling AI companies they must do that, and I guarantee the precedent will be set to go after a human for learning from them. Don’t you dare tell people who you were inspired from when you make it big in your craft.

When I pay AI companies for anything, it’s not a proxy for copyright material, it’s for a service they provide serving, processing, or training the model. We will still require artists and creative people, even if all they do is skillfully prompt an AI tool to render art. But doing only that will be banal and not the pinnacle of what can be achieved with AI-assisted art creation. Art will still require the toil and circumstance that it always has.

Restricting AI from training on copyright materials is a vain and pointless exercise, but one of many that are meant to bring us to fear and loathe AI. It is one of many fears that the powerful want us to adopt… This is a technology that can and will lift us all if we can stop fearing it. But if we can’t do that, it won’t simply go away… It will only be driven into the bowels of the rich and powerful, so that they alone will benefit from it.

All the shovel journalism out there has a very strong purpose… to scare us, so this great equalizer will not be open and free and accessible. Don’t let them do this.

So we want to try to make AI do something that no human can agree on the right way to handle these things? Guess the pendulum will swing wherever it goes and we’ll try to pin it somewhere.

Watch out, someone may come in and make the same comparison about guns.