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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have the right idea. To most people a lot of the stuff she paved way for and influenced in some way or the other, directly or indirectly in more experimental music scenes, probably still sounds awful. And it's not like this cult of personality thing people tend to have with hit and hip bands like The Beatles, but more about the whole scene and movement. She was involved with a lot of cool people back in the day - hell she was involved with Fluxus and if she didn't do anything else at all that's a big enough of a merit in it's own right.

The Japanese noise scene would definitely not be the same, Yamataka Eye and his work with Hanatarash, pre-'Super æ' Boredoms, Naked City, is vocally very similar. Yoko is just as much proto-noise/japanoise as Black Sabbath is proto-metal.

As lowly as Diamanda Galás speaks of her (Galás says that she can't sing, which is true, but it really is beside the point), I'd be hard pressed to believe she wasn't at least indirectly paving the way for her work. Hell they both draw from free jazz and both collaborated with Ornette Coleman.

Members of Sonic Youth have said she has influenced them, Thruston even did a track for 'Rising Mixes' (a la Ono's 'Rising' album) that featured, and Kim has been even more vocal about her. On the same album you can find Tricky (Massive Attack) and Ween as well. Ween has talked about her on at least one occasion. You can find quotes from Mike Watt of Minutemen and fIREHOSE talk very highly of her. Iggy Pop is apparently also a fan, which doesn't really surprise me. Björk?

And then finally for one very much direct and clearl influence: Dagmar Krause of Art Bears. There are times she sounds a little too similar, but to as much it does with Yamataka Eye and Diamanda Galás, they did it better. It's not like she's single-handedly made bands like Sonic Youth form their sound or anything. Influence can be more than just bands going "hey that sounds cool, let's do that, but like, in our own way".

Velvet Underground and Laurie Anderson I'd fathom as well and you put some of my thoughts (and many of these people's thoughts) nicely into words with that second paragraph. Especially considering the work of groups like Fluxus, among others.

I'm trying to be as coherent as possible I haven't slept in a couple of days.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

As much as I haven't found a single thing of hers I can stand to listen she's actually influenced a fair amount of amazing bands and singers, but I suppose sometimes it takes someone making an idiot of themselves to inspire others. All I know is for some reason I have her to thank for some influencing great bands.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It's a feature on an app. There are no filters and you can't block instances unless you're using that one app and apparently in some people's minds everyone uses that one app.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I absolutely read this in Elijah Wood's voice telling about any normal day he has and that's what I'm sticking with.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The Holy Grail is so full of recognizable quotes that you can quote several lines from pretty much any scene and it'd be recognizable.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

"Say hello to my little friend!"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It didn't seem like a lot of younger people acknowledged anything, even the blatant casual racism some of them blurted constantly. They were shocked when I said all the racism is weird to experience and witness. Sure it was extra apparent as a white guy in an Asian country and a foreign culture, often being the target of it, but most didn't exactly speak highly of Koreans or Chinese, or white people, or black people...

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