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If it makes you feel any better, that house would sell for at least double that price where I live.

There is, it's the constitution. You can't be a member of the House without being 25 or a senator without being 30.

I never understand people who make comments like this, what were you expecting going into Twisters? Citizen Kane? I watched Twisters today, it was a mindlessly fun little movie, exactly as expected.

That's a scary thought, guard your fireplace!

Because someone needs to be enslaved to provide universial health care. If even one person wants to opt out, no matter how wrong their reason you if you allow don't allow it they are enslaved.

Congratulations, you just said the dumbest thing I've read on the Internet in a very long time. That's impressive!

I pay for the military, for roads, for schools, for police, for fire departments...and I can't opt out of any of that. So am I already a slave? If so, then I might as well get some healthcare out of the deal.

If I'm not already a slave then universal healthcare isn't making me a slave either. No one would be forcing you to use your healthcare either.

Honestly, everything you have said is dishonest and/or disingenuous. The idea that the price of the vehicle is going to be reduced by 90% as a result of subsidies and innovation is both stupid and dishonest. You should also look up the definition of authoritarian.

They responded

You're saying "they", but it's you. And no you didn't, repeating what you said before isn't addressing the issues.

Adressed twice.

Never addressed at all, you pivoted to the oil industry. You didn't address the subsidies from China or the unfair trade practices.

America will not subsidize to that level, if they could, and no amount of innovation is going to combat subsidization or the unfair trade practices.

According to a Bloomberg article, China will sell EVs at under $10,000, undercutting the price of the average American EV by $50,000. Are you seriously arguing that "investment to lower cost" will reduce the cost by 85-90%? That's simply a ludicrous assertion.

You think US products won't have spyware?

I don't think that collecting anonymized usage data, is the same as unlimited spying going back to an authoritarian government. So no, absolutely nothing comparable.

Americans get cheaper EVs...

For a few years, until the American automakers go bankrupt, as you said, then the Chinese automakers increase prices 10x.

...and the legacy auto industry gets taught a valuable lesson as companies who refused to modernize go bankrupt.

What a valuable lesson, get subsidized by an authoritarian government so that you can offer vehicles below cost. Also be sure to add spyware for the aforementioned authoritarian government.

Do you even understand what below cost means? No amount of modernization will counteract it.

China is subsidizing EV production and selling cars below cost. Allowing them to be sold in the US would kill the domestic EV market. How is that better for Americans?

They may not know step 3, but they know that step 4 is PROFIT!

I don't pay attention to the news (haven't for many years now) and I firmly believe it's okay that I don't.

I also don't vote because, at this point, I'd consider myself the definition of an uninformed voter.

You're essentially keeping yourself ignorant, and then saying you're too ignorant to take action. Just ridiculous.

So much of what's presented by the media doesn't impact my day-to-day life in the slightest.

Trump was elected and as a direct result: Roe was overturned, pregnant women are having their lives risked over non-viable pregnancies, others are forced to have children they don't want, gun control has been struck down, Christian Nationalism is heavily asserting itself at a time when fewer and fewer people are religious, the pandemic was bungled leading to thousands and thousands of unnecessary deaths, $2t was given away to the uber-wealthy, air and water quality standards were rolled back, ultra-conservative judges have been instituting national bans from the 5th circuit, gay and trans rights have been rolled back...and on and on...and that's without getting to all the states banning books and destroying the social safety net.

I guess you could not be a woman, not know a woman, not care about getting shot, or know anyone who you don't want to see get shot, like oppressive religious tenets foisted upon you, not worry about dying of communicable disease, or know anyone that you wouldn't want to see die of communicable disease, be ok with your tax dollars being given to the rich, and not be gay or trans or care about anyone who is....but you must at least breath air and drink water, right?

It all affects you, you're just too ignorant to realize how. Your apathy and indifference are what allows shitty people to hurt others. But if you don't care about that, no one can force you.