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Not sure how they’re better than proton is terms of compliance and anonymity

Proton does require a recovery email address if you sign up to a mail forwarding service or similar, right after creating the account. In that case the account remains locked if you don’t, so that’s just a lie

I think you didn’t read my last paragraph

They’re all like “privacy and freedom”, “take control of your data”…

They’re saying they’re the best for privacy literally on their website. You might argue that Apple does it too, which is fair, even though everyone knows it’s a lie

But yea anyways that’s a big flaw, they shouldn’t push customers to enable a feature that effectively deanonymizes them

Proton leaked the recovery email. Apple has never given any guarantee about their mail service, which isn’t the case of Proton

Don’t put any recovery info on Proton

The reasons cited here are… not really convincing

Yea but from time to time, it’ll just break the entire site. I had a case where for some reason one of the ublock filters removed divs named "privacy" so the whole privacy policy page dissapeared. Happened on a website I was developing and didn’t understand what was happening.

I think I had this happen on tuta's website as well

Put some synthwave and sunglasses for immersion

Everything they recently added is pure bullshit and useless stuff. Just watch the video I linked, it says everything you want to hear. With all the data shared to their partners, I guess it's relatively easy to fingerprint you, depending on how they do it. And cmon about the servers, I never go to their website, I only cost money because of the shit ton of data they retrieve. An update ping from time to time and an update twice a month can't possibly cost 5 million dollars.

They don't have anything to spend money on, the browser is pretty much full of features. The only thing to do is make it faster and check for security issues.

At least on Brave you can opt out of this bullshit

sorry if I missed something I’m high as fuck

Nice

firefox is an opensource software where literally anyone can view the source code and check themselves what is actually sent. you argument all you want with the “but can youn trust them?” but literally anyone esle except some guy on youtube didn’t feel like complaining about firefox

As if people actually did that. I bet serverside code isn't open source

Did you forget about geolocation?

Mozilla's websites are full of trackers too, and they are largely funded by Google. How can you protect privacy when your biggest customer gains money by tracking? Seems like a clear conflict of interest.

And it’s not a bit of telemetry data, it’s literally your entire computer config, number of tabs open, duration… they claim not to log IPs, but can you really trust them? The point is you’re constantly pinging with your IP to their servers for useless reasons. They literally sell your data by sharing it to their “business partners”.

They also send the url of all files you download to Google by default. Great. That’s privacy!

(The video also gives some good points)

I believe a lot of info I got was from this video but it’s been a while so I’m not too sure: https://youtu.be/ugnOM2mzgNU

Also yea Firefox sends a lot of telemetry data and stuff, even if you disable the option in the menu. You have to go to the developer mode to remove all of it. Check "hardened Firefox". If there is an hardened Firefox, then there is a non-hardened Firefox.

And then there are all the contracts and calls to Google's server, for example for geolocation and stuff

And if you want the ultimate proof, everything is in their privacy policy https://www.mozilla.org/fr/privacy/firefox/ - just see how much data they collect, use and share, for better or for worse.

About that, how do we get good search results from Lemmy? I feel like the most important thing to me is finding info through google searches