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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I seriously doubt the viability of this, but I'm looking forward to being proven wrong.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I would recommend instead to use the AI Horde: https://stablehorde.net/ It's a collection of people hosting stable diffusion/text generation models

There's also openrouter which can connect to ChatGPT with a token-based system. (They check your prompts for hornyposting though)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Judging by my bank account I'm transitioning to non-profit status as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Yes of course, there's nothing gestalt about model training, fixed inputs result in fixed outputs

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I suppose the importance of the openness of the training data depends on your view of what a model is doing.

If you feel like a model is more like a media file that the model loaders are playing back, where the prompt is more of a type of control over how you access this model then yes I suppose from a trustworthiness aspect there's not much to the model's training corpus being open

I see models more in terms of how any other text encoder or serializer would work, if you were, say, manually encoding text. While there is a very low chance of any "malicious code" being executed, the importance is in the fact that you can check the expectations about how your inputs are being encoded against what the provider is telling you.

As an example attack vector, much like with something like a malicious replacement technique for anything, if I were to download a pre-trained model from what I thought was a reputable source, but was man-in-the middled and provided with a maliciously trained model, suddenly the system I was relying on that uses that model is compromised in terms of the expected text output. Obviously that exact problem could be fixed with some has checking but I hope you see that in some cases even that wouldn't be enough. (Such as malicious "official" providence)

As these models become more prevalent, being able to guarantee integrity will become more and more of an issue.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I've seen this said multiple times, but I'm not sure where the idea that model training is inherently non-deterministic is coming from. I've trained a few very tiny models deterministically before...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I'm not sure where you get that idea. Model training isn't inherently non-deterministic. Making fully reproducible models is 360ai's apparent entire modus operandi.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 5 months ago (14 children)

There are VERY FEW fully open LLMs. Most are the equivalent of source-available in licensing and at best, they're only partially open source because they provide you with the pretrained model.

To be fully open source they need to publish both the model and the training data. The importance is being "fully reproducible" in order to make the model trustworthy.

In that vein there's at least one project that's turning out great so far:

https://www.llm360.ai/

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Holy crap there are still working nitter instances? God bless

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

In my experience these open models is where the real work is being done. The large supervised models like DALL-E etc are more flashy but there's a lot more going on behind the scenes than the model itself so it feels like it's hard to gauge the real progress being done

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

It's usually not the water itself but the energy used to "systemize" water from out-of-system sources

Pumping, pressurization, filtering, purifying all take additional energy.

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