TranscendentalEmpire

Huh, I didn't know there was a specific term for it. I just know similar things happened with the early rail and oil industries. When there's so much competition in a market the only way you can corner it by offering more than your competitors for less. Once you box out your competition, buy them out, or out last them you, can actually start making returns.

wanna say that corpos making decisions like this indicate a lack of oversight/sensibility but honestly it seems to be fucking working.

I think it's more of a sign that we've reached a natural demarcation point of capitalism. There's not a lot of ways for these service industries to achieve growth year over year, and a lot of them are dependent year over year growth to remain in solvency.

You can't lower production cost anymore, you're already paying people as little as possible. You've already run off any competition you could, except for maybe the one or two that would lead to destructive competition if you tried. The government won't let you conglomerate with your remaining competitors, because even they realize there needs to be at least an illusion of competition...... after all that, who's left to squeeze? Well we can't screw over the investors, that's the only crime we can actually be prosecuted for.

I guess it's time to fuck the consumer!

Yeah, it's real unfortunate. I work for a university hospital, who's CEO is always supposed to be a physician. Up until about ten years ago it seemed to help the balance of public good against financial reward. Then we started to see a slew of physicians who went back to school for business management getting hired for upper management.

Yep, I kinda expect this kind of utilitarian villainy from Musk. But, seeing this happen at UC Davis is an eye opening view of just how corrupted by funding schemes US research institutes are becoming.

This is what happens when university leadership positions are filled with nothing but econ and business "educators".

This man has lived such a wild life, imagine getting groomed so hard that you become the president.

You'll be happy to know that JP has falsely claimed numerous times that he is a member of the native Kwakwaka’wakw tribe of Ontario!

would recommend getting a more direct source to criticize in the future so im not considering opinion articles from a peoples magazine as a source

The direct source is the video linked in the article. Arguing the quality of a source material in a subjective debate is just admitting you don't have a counter argument. This isn't a scientific debate, the quote I gave you is directly from the primary source. You can choose not to believe the subjective information in the article, but I didn't make any claims that weren't direct quotes from a primary source.

Let me explain then. If there was an ancient tablet found with the words "God is dead" on it. Would we take that at face value? No, it doesn't have any evidence to support it, there is no reason to engage in debate.

However if you suppose the tablet is correct, you would have to support that affirmation with additional supporting information. The statement of the tablet isn't self evident, so it not really a serious claim. You are making it a serious claim by supporting it, and thus must be the one to provide evidence for that claim.

This is pretty basic debate, which is usually structured into the form of affirmation vs negation. The side of the affirmation is the one making a claim( god is dead), the side of the negation responds by denying the claim and responding to supporting evidence by proposing counter arguments.

It doesn't matter that you didn't make the original claims, only that you choose the side of the affirmation.

Sure

The claim was initially made by the meme. I am questioning this, yet you are here asking me for proof of the contrary.

The claim was made by a meme with no supporting evidence, and thus can be dismissed without evidence.

The meme is also inanimate and cannot defend it's own affirmation. However, you chose to substantiate this affirmation, which means you now have the onus of burden of proof.

"The cure for that is enforced monogamy."

About Alek Minassian, a man accused of killing six people after running them over with a van in Toronto: “He was angry at God because women were rejecting him. The cure for that is enforced monogamy. That’s actually why monogamy emerges.”

Oh, some incel murdered 6 people, must of been a woman's fault somehow.......

Is defending a literal misogynist terror attack enough evidence for you?

Its pretty sad to hear someone outright bully someone.

Lol, me disproving your unsupported claim that young men need empowerment is totally bullying.....

Its not fair to judge the people desperate for compassion.

Huh, have you told Jordan Peterson that? If those people are utilizing their "empowerment" to displace the power of other actual disenfranchised groups.... I'm totally fine with judging them.

On a side bar, being desperate for compassion has nothing to do with empowering young men. To seek empowerment is to seek power over people, you don't connect to people by gathering power.

Some of these guys have grown up without a father figure or they are at the edge of suicide

And what does that have to do with empowering young men? They aren't sad because they aren't masculine enough, or disciplined enough. They have emotional baggage and should be seeking guidance from an actual therapist, not through some parasocial relationship with some bigot.

I am arguing that he exists with this purpose and that he is an easy resource that provides a guiding substance young men desire.

I don't think you can speak for him or other young men.... Nor can you really claim that he's benefitted anyone with his ideology. I'm sure lots of people thought Jim Jones was helping them at the time. I've known people who got into JP and they thought he was helping him "make gains", he wasn't, he was just loosing friends.

why do young men flock to him if he is not what they want?

Because it easier to blame scapegoats like wokeism and feminist than it is to blame something more enigmatic like our current economic system.

The vast majority of JPs fans are young white men from the western hemisphere. People who 50 years ago would have been almost guaranteed the sweet middle class life if they could just learn a trade or go to college.

Well that's not the case anymore for anyone. After the destruction of unions, the ever increasing profits reserves for shareholders, and the popularization of aggressive labour cutting management, were all in the same boat. If history has taught us anything is that to the privileged class, equality feels an awful lot like oppression.

These young men need a reason why they aren't as successful as their grandfather's, but they're not ready to give up seeing the world in rose tinted glasses. They don't want change, they want to revert back to the time where young white dudes got to catch the free ride.

I dont even listen to him

Then why would you state "I've never heard him state that"? Wouldn't that have been redundant if you haven't actually listened to him?

You don't have be dishonest, you are entitled to have an opinion. However if you are engaging me with that opinion than I am entitled to explain why I think it's wrong.

Is it because they dont know about Heidegger of Marie Kondo or is it that they arent as widely known/popular? (Tbh this is the first time in my life ive heard those names.)

Quite possible, our education system is a hot pile of trash. Heidegger is one of the fathers of embodied cognition, A philosophical and psychological theory that puts forth the idea that cognition is a dynamic development between an organism and it's environment.

Basically, physical engagement with your environment is the most important aspect of cognition. This is why JP has you clean your room, it gets you to physically engage with your environment in a way that is manageable and achievable for everyone. Teaching people that physical engagement(embodiment) is the first step towards metaphysical problem solving.

The reason that this is dangerous is because it requires young men to embody(practice) the teachings enable to understand them. Which can be devastating if the teachings are being given by a insane person.

Marie Kando is kinda the nice version of JP. She utilizes embodied psych as well, but she's responsible enough to limit what she teaches to practical things around the house hold. She is way way more popular than JP and is one of the best selling authors in recent history.

Stop assuming these young men have a burning desire to sift through hundreds if not thousands of options.

If these young men were actually in need, they would find actual help. The simple fact is that their needs are no greater than anyone else in the same age bracket. They're just being told that they need help, because someone wants to sell them "help".

but hes a figurehead for this space currently

Yes, because he's one of the people who created the space in the first place. Jordan Peterson is just Andrew Tate for the pseudo intellectual, I could literally use your same exact arguments to support his popularity among young men. Do you hold the same respect for a literal human trafficker?