Silverseren

I'm always more and more weirded out when plant-based foods try to mimic meat. Even to extremes like with Spam here. Just...why?

The good thing is that each usage thus far has only been in the narrow strips of hiding trees, so there's no risk of a large fire breaking out. A lot of the people whining on social media about killing trees are purposefully ignoring that fact.

That's some high tier psychological damage right there.

But there are distinctions to be made even then in regards to colorants and preservatives, right? Since plenty of both of those are from naturally occurring sources. Like, do you have a problem with Red 4 or Red 26? There's a ton of others that are just letter numbers too, like E161g or E161e. What's funny is, even then, a lot of them have disparate approvals around the world, being banned in the EU, but allowed in Australia and New Zealand or vice versa.

I did. I was asking you what you were defining it is, since "artificial" as used in the article is often not artificial, but has natural sources. Or, in some cases, are chemically identical to the natural source and thus has no meaningful biological difference.

I don't exactly expect news articles to understand anything about organic chemistry or biochemistry.

What exactly are you defining as "artificial stuff"?

They technically have preservative properties because of the hydrogenation, but they really aren't used for that purpose. You don't fry things to necessarily preserve them better. It's for taste/texture, like you said.

Sure, there's plenty of preservatives we don't use anymore because there are way healthier alternatives. But there's also plenty of anti-science people who fearmonger about any and every preservative despite knowing nothing about its chemistry or even any claims of harm.

I really don't understand the people who fearmonger about preservatives. Do you want food to go bad? Preserving things in salt and other methods are as old as cooking itself and are responsible for feeding people around the world in horrible famine times.

I presume this is images directly hosted on English Wikipedia and not the entirety of Commons where the vast majority of images are kept, right?

The benefit of text not taking up much space.

Not under their new owner, since he's the one that pushed for the definition change in the first place, among many other blatantly biased changes to the ADL in the past decade.