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I'm Canadian. (Although dental isn't covered by healthcare in Canada, so ... Same thing in this case, kinda)

I'm trying to figure out what X-ray equipment can be stolen that is worth only thousands of dollars. A case of those films you bite on when they x-ray your teeth?

If you're using software to do just that, then I'm saying that you're wrong.

My point was that you don't need to use software to do just that.

I do

You're not most people. You're not even most anti-capitalists or revolutionaries. It's important to stay grounded in the reality of meeting people where they're at. If you're expecting your revolution to be populated by tech savvy people, I've got some bad news to break to you.

relevant to fucking anything digital based on an agreement towards respect for another human's life without knowing that person

I agree, that's why FOSS is the ethical choice. But that doesn't get us closer to a revolution. If I understood your last paragraph, it was a bit hard to follow.

In the future, bots are going to get so annoyed with people pretending to be bots when they just want to talk to other bots!

I feel like we mostly agree with each other, we just don't agree about the extent to which FOSS is helpful.

I agree, although perhaps less dramatically, that closed source is harmful, and that you can't trust it. I agree that FOSS makes trusting software easier (although not trivial, critical vulns can still exist for years), and FOSS helps democratize whatever the software is used for (although in the current capitalist hellscape, software tooling is a relatively small hurdle).

To me, you don't need FOSS to build a (literal) guillotine, and you don't need FOSS to spread flyers. It's not necessary for a revolution, and recent history seems to show it doesn't really move us closer to a revolution. I don't understand the basis for your claims otherwise. Communication benefits from software, and FOSS means that we can trust our tools of communication more, but in the end we still largely depend on ISPs and corporate hardware. People don't have open source hardware phones, running mobile distros of Linux, loaded with radical app repos, running a massive adhoc p2p communication network.

I see FOSS as a goal. I want to live in a world where FOSS is the natural state of things, collaborating instead of competing. That is the end state I want to achieve, but it is not itself the solution for achieving that state.

FOSS is the solution (in microcosm) in the sense that it is a good replacement for capitalism, but not the solution in the sense of doing the work to achieve the end goal.

By "this" you've been doing FOSS for a decade and a half? And yet you're unable to provide even a hint of a shred of evidence that FOSS would meaningfully solve or even alleviate the issues with modern capitalism? Paint me skeptical.

I haven't been working on FOSS projects the whole time, but I've been doing software development for over 15 years, not including my time in university, so I'm not unfamiliar with the subject.

The burden of proof is on you. You're the one making the claim, and I've also mentioned the patently obvious fact that capitalists use FOSS products to "improve efficiency" (reduce headcount) just to get the ball rolling.

Lol does such vacuous psudointelligent talk get you much success in your circles?

I am adamant against capitalism, and I'm pro-FOSS. but I'm not delusional about the ability of FOSS to fix capitalist issues, I'm pro-FOSS because it's a more-ethical way to make software.

You read like a teenager who just learned about FOSS and think it's going to change the world all by itself.

Cute little moving of the goalposts, there. Im not sure what you think I'm "adamant against", but sure.

If you think FOSS can solve capitalism's issues, you either don't know what FOSS is or you don't know what capitalism's problems are.

Free Open Source Software. Do you even know what capitalism is?

Someone needs to invent the rocket guillotine, ASAP

They also borrowed the money from each other too, so each has a $25 card and a $25 debt. The debt will never be paid, and they'll acrue interest with each other. They'll all use the growing debt as a justification to cut social services.