LadyAutumn

My job required me to have a cell phone, as did nearly every one I applied for. My apartment is paid for out of my bank account, which has no physical location and requires usage of an app to do so. So yeah, I do have to have one.

Is your sexual pleasure from watching porn worth it even if you are masturbating to women being raped?

Dunno where you got cars, but yes I need a phone to survive. Do you need to watch women being raped to survive? Come on, you can answer the question without deflecting. Admit that you're gonna watch porn even knowing some of what you watch is being raped, and that alone isn't enough to make you stop.

So I can access society, yeah. But im not masturbating to women being raped. Which yes I see as entirely different and as unjustifiable.

Some regulation for the porn industry would be nice, how about auditors and some method of government vetting to ensure the rights of sex workers in general.

I will not consume it for many reasons, I'm a woman and porn is written and filmed to be exploitative of bodies like mine. Thats not and never is going to appeal to me. Erotica exists, drawings exist, forms of ethical sexuality exist from which I can consume.

Note that porn itself is not some godly byproduct of open-minded sexual liberation. A large portion of it is sadistic fantasy of abusing women, and I strongly question the long term impact of exposing teenage boys to content depicting women being victimized - even in a consensual context. What are the long term ramifications of hyper sexualizing women in pornography? What is the effect with regards to perception of women, with regards to the proliferation of misogyny?

And why is porn so infantile, so pseudo-pedophilic? Why all the teen shit? Why all the jailbait shit, the barely legal and so on. Am I supposed to ignore this, and pretend that the existence of this industry has no tangible impact on my life? Am I supposed to believe that the porn industry played no part in creating my rapist, in creating a culture whereby raping women is seen as desirable by men who do not empathize with women?

I think banning ogranized commercial pornography and instituting universal basic income would pretty readily solve this problem, even for the sex workers who can now choose to produce their own pornography for non-financial non-survival reasons if they want to. Anything less than that doesn't adequately address the way this industry exploits women, both within the industry and outside of it.

Or don't consume, which is also an option.

No I need a cell phone to get a home, to get a job, to work a job, and therefore to survive. No one needs porn to survive.

And no a child dying isn't an acceptable outcome of owning a phone, but me surviving is. I'm not going to become homeless in the name of ethical consumption. It wouldn't change anything if I did, and I'd be able to do less to advocate for workers rights if I did so.

However, masturbating to women being sexually abused is not necessary for survival. You don't have to do that. And me using a cell phone is, again, not the same as watching women being raped for sexual pleasure. The fact that you see it as the same is telling of how you see women.

To reiterate, you know that you're watching a woman being raped and deriving sexual pleasure from that. You see this as acceptable, because otherwise you wouldn't be able to watch porn. If you didn't see that as acceptable you wouldn't watch porn. Which, again, is a thing you do not need to do.

And you are okay with the chance that you're masturbating to a woman being sexually abused. You see that as acceptable so that you may continue to consume pornography.

I don't watch porn, as masturbating to someone being sexually abused is not an acceptable consequence of watching porn to me.

No you're not just as bad as the producers, but I wouldn't watch it in the first place as masturbating to someone being sexually abused is not an acceptable consequence of watching porn for me.

So then, in your view, masturbating to a woman being raped accidentally is an acceptable consequence of watching pornography?

I never said masturbating to women being raped was equivalent to raping a woman. I said they're both bad and inexcusable actions that I, and many others, are perfectly capable of entirely avoiding.