FutileRecipe

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (17 children)

I've got old apps that won't work any more.

I'm actually for this. The bar to entry for the Play Store is too low with too many low quality and unmaintained apps. I'm all for booting insecure and super old apps. They cheapen the ecosystem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm holding out for the 10. The 8 added mirrored display (so you can mirror your screen on a monitor... I'd rather this come with the Pixel Tablet 2 and the Pixel Tablet skipped it form some reason) and MTE, which GrapheneOS says is the most significant addition to security since they've started the OS. If those come with the 10, not to mention the 10 is supposed to have Google's inhouse chip and not Samsung's...yep, I'm upgrading.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Do you pass play integrity?

GrapheneOS, and other non-OEM OSes, do not. It's kinda the whole point of the article/OP I linked.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'll have to make do with a secondhand 7 pro

Ouch, that hits me right in the 7Pro feels lol. Make do, indeed, lolol.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I could see things as simple as...

Last I heard, the McDonalds' app doesn't work, of all things.

https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/9123-the-mcdonalds-app-doesnt-work/

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't even use proprietary apps so most if the "security features" aren't even useful to me

So only proprietary apps may have malware? Malware aside, only proprietary apps may have bugs that can be exploited? And all nonproprietary apps are perfectly safe? But seriously, there is so much wrong with that thinking.

Apps aside, GrapheneOS protects the actual OS and is kept up to date, much quicker than pretty much any other variant.

It is overly complex for no benefit to me.

What's overly complex? Contact and storage scope I mentioned? You don't have to use it. Separate profiles for work I mentioned? Again, don't have to use it. GrapheneOS is one of the closest OSes to AOSP that I've seen. You could even just install the Play Store (which is in a sandbox by default, with no root, and you don't have to do anything to specify that), only use the owner profile, and you get all of the security benefits with no extra work. You introducing F-Droid and using all nonproprietary apps is more complex than GrapheneOS out of the box.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Graphene sucks the life of android in my humble option.

What's not "fun" or lifeless about it? It's a phone. I use it exactly as I would a normal Pixel, with the exception of having the convenience of Google Wallet.

Everything is about security with anything else being second.

Would you rather it be all about fun/having life with everything else being second? That doesn't sound safe. And I'm still confused about you saying it having no life.

I will say what I do differently vs a normal Pixel, is I use the storage scopes and lock certain apps to certain folders as well as contact scopes to lock certain apps to only see certain people. I don't use my phone for work, but if I did, that would be a separate profile/user.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Be sure to take the company’s last $5000 instead.

Well, now I need to find a company. Oh, one with $5000.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

With Graphene, the recommended way is to use separate profiles, not Shelter or similar apps. Check out the official Graphene account on their forum:

https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/12503-shelter-versus-native-gos-app-isolation-tradeoffs/10

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

graphene OS. However, with the difficulty to install them, most people will choose not to

GrapheneOS is ridiculously simple.to install. EnableOEM unlocking, boot to fastboot, connect to PC. Then you press four buttons (wait for the buttons to say they're done) on a browser. Super simple.

Granted, it's harder than picking up your phone and using the OEM install, but that doesn't make GrapheneOS difficult to install. The days of using exploits, flashing a custom recovery, flashing a zip, then flashing another for Gapps, maybe one for a kernel, etc...those days are over if you're using a Pixel with GrapheneOS.

https://grapheneos.org/install/web

[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Can we work on expanding existing fiber so most places get at least a single gig fiber first?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Except it's cheaper to pay their existing non-Linux developers to do something than hire a team of new developers for Linux.

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