Frank

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

This isn't accurate at all. The fighting happened when would-be insurgents ambushed pla troops. The pla had unarmed soldiers in the square for a long time. And i mean really unarmed. No helmets, no shields, no batons, no tear gas. When things finally touched off with the cia-backed "pro democracy) faction that was a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the people involved the pla ordered everyone out of the square and everyone left. That was it. When the cia backed wannabe insurgents started attacking the pla everyone was ordered to leave and they left. They didn't do any brutal state repression. The cpc was in an extremely awkward position bc the vast majority of people involved in the June 4th incident were protesting against Dengist market liberalization, asking for a return to a more socialist economy. Others were protesting the restrictive social norms of contemporary China, arguing that the restrictive social norms were anti-communsit and that people should have more freedom to do simple stuff like publicly date and be publicly affectionate.

Ultimately a big part of the reason there was little reprisal is bc the cpc couldn't crack down on pro-socialist protestors, and because in the end the whole thing ended mostly peacefully. The narrative around it is so utterly twisted and distorted. And if you ask people in China about it they don't understand why westerners think it's important. It's just a minor incident in history from a long time ago.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

From what i understand the vast, overwhelming majority of students were protesting against the Dengist reforms.

About 300 people died, including PLA soldiers, in street fighting blocks away from the square, which started when unarmed pla soldiers were attacked with firebombs in their trucks and apcs and burned alive.

The students in the square left when ordered with little if any violence. The whole narrative around the June 4th incident is unalloyed propaganda and revisionist history.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

And the color revolt was only a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of the people there. The revisionism is disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Statists using tribunals to try other statists is the use of state authority and the use of the state's monopoly on the legitimate use of force. If "Authoritarian" means anything at all then using the power of the state to prosecute people who are doing state stuff in ways you don't like is authoritarian.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Sankara was murdered 31 years after the revolt in Hungary was put down. He supported the USSR. He was, by definition, a tankie.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Vibes based politics is endemic among liberals. We try to help them but it's mostly futile.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I swear to god the next time tells me that BS I am going to shit myself, vomit, and cry.

There is a literal anti-Trans genocide in the US. That's "The good" you're defending.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think I could ever make you believe that we came to these conclusions based on an analysis of world history, economics, and the current geopolitical reality and didn't need any help from Yuri at the FSB.

You literally don't understand how we analyze geopolitics.

“The most revolutionary thing one can do is always to proclaim loudly what is happening.”

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as I know internet advertising is an economy destroying sunk cost fallacy. No one makes money off of it, but if they stop basically everything collapses catastrophically, so they just keep pouring more money in to it in hopes that someone will find a way to make it profitable before the bill comes due.