Cleverdawny

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where people can vote for their leaders of any political bent, while people on the mainland are machine gunned for peacefully protesting to gain the right to do so. Wumau tankie fascists are all the same.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

There's two paths to talking with a communist. Either they're a tankie and start singing the praises of the USSR and PRC and all sorts of totalitarian hellholes, or they start talking about hypothetical economic systems and states which haven't been shown to be practically achievable. I don't say this to be a dick, man. I much prefer the utopian idealist communists over those who cheer when political dissidents are machine gunned for wanting democracy. But it still doesn't make libertarian communism a workable system, whether it's anarchic communism or democratic socialism or some other form of stateless society.

So, I am happy to be civil with you, I just fundamentally disagree about whether attempting to achieve those ideals would end well. In my opinion, it would have one of three results - anarchy and a breakdown of the economy, imposition of totalitarian rule in reaction to groups of people who don't want to give up their private property rights, or reversion to another form of economic structure, like capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Yeah ok man I don't care about your geopolitics, the point is that the only part of what is considered China which is at all democratic is Taiwan. The PRC is a totalitarian, one party dictatorship.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (24 children)

The only part of China which is at all a democracy is Taiwan

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (16 children)

And farmers who own their lands, and workers who want unions independent of the state, and political dissidents, and a thousand other groups

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As demonstrated by which socialist country

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm an American. No European country is a socialist nation.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

If you disagree, feel free to point to a superior alternative which has been demonstrated in reality

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

At best European nations are social liberal democracies. No European country is a socialist nation.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Capitalism is the worst economic system, except for all others which have been tried

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (70 children)

The communist version of this meme has someone with a whip and sword standing behind them and telling them to work for the benefit of the people or die

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nah, but when it's a user from Hexbear or Lemmygrad, it all starts to add up

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