Cleverdawny

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Even in a right to work for less state, it's easier to negotiate with employers for fair pay than it is to do so in a communist society. Communist societies may generally be more equal, but they're equal at a far lower level of income, and in reality it just means trapping everyone at the subsistence level of work drudgery instead of offering many a way to gain greater affluence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (24 children)

I said victims, not allies

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, but that wish for Marx's vision fails when it hits reality, where in reality, institution of communism or socialism essentially requires a totalitarian form of government

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (26 children)

OP thinks all the victims of communism are either enemies of the people or made up by the CIA or some other dumb shit

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (18 children)

I'd rather work for the money I can negotiate than whatever some communist official says I need. I'd rather have real labor unions representing me than unions populated entirely by Party officials.

Capitalism isn't perfect. But capitalism with good social safety nets is a better economic system than anything else we have developed. "We have nothing to lose but our chains?" Sure, if you want some tyrant replacing fair work for fair pay with work at the barrel of a gun and labor under the eye of the secret police.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I'll happily consort with neoliberals over a Stalinist tankie like OP

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

You painting your self portrait, fash?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sure. Elimination of the role of capital in ownership of industry

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Dictators like Stalin use violence and charity as elements for policy. Starve some people you don't like, or force them to relocate? Cool. Quickly send food aid to a potential strategic partner? Cool.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Communism and socialism have been bundled with dictatorship every time they've been seriously implemented.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Stalin was great at feeding his people! We asked a Ukrainian peasant, and they didn't object! Or move. Or breathe.

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