BonfireOvDreams

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Foundationally we already disagree, as I'm a moral objectivist. To assert moral subjectivity is to assert that moral progress does not exist. But with your edit your argument is actually now even worse IMO, because instead of focusing on a moral relativist position you're now basically saying morality=culture/law. i.e., since you have no say in what another society does without disrupting their agreed practice, all their actions are permissible. Bigotry is permissible. Slavery is permissible, hangings are permissible, genocide is permissible, etc, just so long as it simultaneously does not occur within proximity to you and rejects your preference. I think you are tolerant of intolerance.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

On the basis of their being conscious feeling thinking emotional beings I assert that there is no moral difference between violating the bodily autonomy of a non-human animal and a human. Given a no alternative hypothetical it's fair to give preference for who to spare, but this is not the same as willful unnecessary violence and killing.

If it's false equivalency, demonstrate why it is permissible to kill non humans but not even permissible to punch humans in the face. What is the morally relevant difference? If you could apply that difference to a human, would you then justify doing to them all the things we do to animals?

Your examples don't have victims, this one does.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (15 children)

The people who want me to stop punching nonconsenting people in the face unprovoked sure are smug about not punching nonconsenting people in the face unprovoked. They should stop telling me what to do. Live and let live. I am very intelligent. An enlightened centrist you might say! ☝️🤓

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

OP's post itself is bait. Funny haha gif does not address the victims at all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Yeah dude idk how to tell you this but some people actually do have an interest in a sustainable planet and individual's bodily autonomy. Idc if these are foreign ideas to you. OP's post itself is the trolling. If y'all don't want reactionary responses, dont troll this shit to the top post for the last six hours. You've all demonstrated very clearly how little you care about anything outside of your own momentary pleasure.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (43 children)

Oh boy, another dogshit kill animals hehe meme. Very funny maymay community. Psuedoprogressive animal abusers the lot of ya. There is not enough resources on Earth to quench your never ending demand for bodies. Just have ten trillion kids who all definitely have the opportunity to eat just as many animals as you do! Primitive zero brain cell fools. I'd throw you all out of Athens.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Um sweaty dry beans are shelf stable for five years ☝️🤓

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