Arkouda

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (11 children)

The difference between schools installing the programs on their own hardware and installing them on personal devices is stark and I cannot take any argument seriously that ignores this.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Easy, just compare the amount of pollution required to make a battery and a solar panel with the amount of pollution required to extract and burn fossil fuels for the equivalent power output over the duration of the renewable’s working lifetime.

If it is so easy I am waiting.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Like I thought, you’re misunderstanding what you’re reading.

Like I thought, you have nothing meaningful to say. I won't waste further time with you.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Yes. Things can be infinitely recyclable. But since you’re such an expert. Tell me, what part of a lithium atom degrades during its life as a battery? I’m not expecting a good answer from you though since you think that burning a compound (to release the energy in its bonds) is then recyclable.

No, nothing can be recycled to infinite. It is asinine to even attempt to assert that.

But since you’re such an expert. Tell me, what part of a lithium atom degrades during its life as a battery?

Recycling Lithium batteries recovers approximately 20-96% of materials. This means best case scenario, which is not the norm in battery recycling, every time a battery is recycled 4% of the materials are lost.

Doesn't take a math genius to see how quickly finite resources dry up with a 4% loss every single time a batteries life ends.

I’m not expecting a good answer from you though since you think that burning a compound (to release the energy in its bonds) is then recyclable.

Funny because I never said gas was recyclable. You should learn to read before you try to make snide comments.

I hope the simple math and explaination I used is understandable to you, but I am not expecting much.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago

Health and Environmental Concerns

Despite the positive outlooks on battery recycling, negative effects also have been shown to impact developing nations that recycle batteries, especially those with lead and lithium.

Lead is a highly toxic substance, and processing it can result in pollution and contamination of people, resulting in long-term health problems and even disability.[59][33] According to one ranking, lead-acid battery recycling is, by far, the most deadly industrial process, globally, in terms of Disability-adjusted life years lost—costing between 2,000,000 and 4,800,000 estimated lost years of individual human life.[60]

Since 2015, developing nations like Vietnam have increased their battery processing capacity as global demand for batteries has grown. The process for recycling batteries often leads to toxic metals being introduced into the environment. In many of these nations, there are little protections available for workers working with the batteries.[3] In nations like Indonesia, it was reported that over a span of four years, battery recycler's blood lead levels almost doubled.[61] Lead exposure to workers can also be transmitted to family members away from work, ultimately leading to lead poisoning. [62]

More studies continue to be conducted to gather an understanding of environmental impacts. Studies show that most lithium-ion batteries contain Per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS). PFAS accumulates in humans and wildlife, often leading to immune and thyroid disfunctions, liver diseases, and other issues relating to homeostasis inside of the body.[63] Lead contamination of neighborhoods has resulted from the process of recycling lead batteries. In 1992, the EPA reported 29 lead-recycling sites were on the EPA's Superfund clean-up list, 22 of them on their "National Priority List."[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_recycling#Lithium_ion_batteries

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (6 children)

After which they are essentially infinitely recyclable.

Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, is "infinitely recyclable". Literally defies physics.

Lets also not forget that oil is recyclable.

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