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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Anyways. I know you probably wanted a story that was more interesting than depressing, but that’s just one that really stuck with me from that point in my life there. I don’t think that’s a normal experience for a Night Auditor to have, so I wouldn’t take my experience as a reason to dissuade anyone from taking the position, but you asked for a story, and so you got one.

Even a depressing story is interesting in its own way, so I appreciate it all the same! I can see why the experience stuck with you, it's a rough situation to find oneself in for almost all involved

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Any odd stories from that job?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Fun part is, that article cites a paper mentioning misgivings with the terminology: AI Hallucinations: A Misnomer Worth Clarifying. So at the very least I'm not alone on this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, on further thought and as I mention in other replies, my thoughts on this are shifting toward the real bug of this being how it's marketed in many cases (as a digital assistant/research aid) and in turn used, or attempted to be used (as it's marketed).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

perception

This is the problem I take with this, there's no perception in this software. It's faulty, misapplied software when one tries to employ it for generating reliable, factual summaries and responses.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

It's not a bad article, honestly, I'm just tired of journalists and academics echoing the language of businesses and their marketing. "Hallucinations" aren't accurate for this form of AI. These are sophisticated generative text tools, and in my opinion lack any qualities that justify all this fluff terminology personifying them.

Also frankly, I think students have one of the better applications for large-language model AIs than many adults, even those trying to deploy them. Students are using them to do their homework, to generate their papers, exactly one of the basic points of them. Too many adults are acting like these tools should be used in their present form as research aids, but the entire generative basis of them undermines their reliability for this. It's trying to use the wrong tool for the job.

You don't want any of the generative capacities of a large-language model AI for research help, you'd instead want whatever text-processing it may be able to do to assemble and provide accurate output.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Tbh I didn't mean to Lemmy, so much as simply off Twitter in general, preferably to a non-corporate social site. It may be naive/idealistic, but I think those most inclined to leave would be the better of the bunch, and those in-between are more apt to go to another corporate site anyway (e.g. Threads).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

When I wrote "processing", I meant it in the sense of getting to that "shape" of an appropriate response you describe. If I'd meant this in a conscious sense I would have written, "poorly understood prompt/query", for what it's worth, but I see where you were coming from.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

(AI confidently BSing)

Isn't it more accurate to say it's outputting incorrect information from a poorly processed prompt/query?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Do the add-ons you use specifically target Facebook? If so, what are you using to mitigate its manipulative/predatory designs?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (18 children)

Why do tech journalists keep using the businesses' language about AI, such as "hallucination", instead of glitching/bugging/breaking?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 months ago (9 children)

How might we help and encourage people to leave Twitter?

 

Would pillow fort engineering become a more serious field?

 

Emphasis on individual online space, so not a forum/federated platform, more like maybe a blog or portfolio or anything else more experimental. Suppose the full gamut of tech familiarity from unfamiliar to familiar.

Original Title:
What advice and cautionary tales would you give on setting up one's own individual online space with today's tools?

 

It's fun to find stuff people make mostly for the sake of it and put out there, but it's also often not easy to find, even when they're sharing it for others to enjoy or to receive some feedback.

Besides knowing the people behind these kinds of things, what have been some ways you've found your way to others' works/creations?

 

By roundabout I mean neither forums, emails, nor comment sections, but other indirect and atypical ways of community forming online.

 

In a similar vein to the question of separating art from the artist, I think it's also worth discussing how one approaches appreciating art despite its often industrial ~~and commercial~~ origins.

Edited for clarity: commercial is sort of redundant, and may have given an impression of there being issue taken with any sort of money made from art, which wasn't the intent. Focus was intended more on industrial, i.e. bigger business, art output.

 

This could be things that once were commercialized but are now public domain, or have largely resisted commercialization to this day. In this context I mean this as aiming for profit and being sold/monetized.

 

It's helpful to take a few steps back from time to time to reassess where we're each coming from on our knowledge of tech (or anything) to better communicate.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/22757703, but revised to try to find less individual focused ideas/responses.

In thinking on the classic Sartre quote concerning the folly of arguing with anti-Semites as if they're arguing in good faith, as well as the Swift quote regarding reasoning being unable to correct an ill opinion one didn't reason themselves into...

It's made me wonder if there might be some ways to play off of these approaches to spread beneficial information more than the harmful info they've otherwise enabled to abound. What might be some ways to pass along helpful or generally benign info without getting as caught in the weeds explaining things, continuing to allow more harmful info to flourish?

For those unfamiliar, here are the quotes in question:“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” ― Jean-Paul Sartre

And: "Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired." ― Jonathan Swift.

(This second one takes on various forms.)

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