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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (28 children)

So hilarious to see this on this sub after people assured me time and time again that "we only pirate because prices are too high!"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I pirate because it's more convenient, surprisingly I don't pirate games and music because of steam and spotify, steam is just convenient, so is spotify it's more convenient than fucking around with finding music you like

movies/tv shows it's more convenient to have my own plex server

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We pirate because we're selfish but use every excuse in the book to convince ourselves otherwise...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If we were selfish, we wouldn't be sharing our files in the first place, and the system would fall apart.

It's the fact that we aren't selfish that filesharing works at all.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I will torrent the latest movie, but I will buy the latest album from my favorite band directly off Bandcamp. Might even buy a t-shirt or some stickers.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think for movies and music this is totally true. Video games less so but not impossible

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I don’t pirate games because Steam just makes it more convenient, and sites like IsThereAnyDeal make it easy to find sales.

However, as someone that’s been a hobbyist developer for 15 years, and never really been able to overcome the imposter syndrome to be able to publish anything, I’d be happy if someone thought my game was even worth the time to pirate, much less be paid for.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What a twat. Imagine your personality being you don't support creatives because you are addicted to stealing.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How many times do we have to write this exact line? "Piracy is not stealing, as the original remains in the hands of the owner. Piracy is simply making a copy and distributing it."

It''s not a morally correct act to be sure, however we really need to come up with a better terminology.

I do agree with your assessment of this particular twat though.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Piracy is whatever. Using an old school ass MP3 player in 2023 is unhinged though. I'm sure their phone can do whatever that MP3 player can do just as easily.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I can afford Crunchyroll at this point, but I still watch exclusively from Aniwave (formerly 9anime)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Or, pirate because it’s what Jesus would do.

Jesus 2024 gets sent straight to jail for just copy pasting everything for everybody, completely ruining the economy. You wouldn’t just download food for the hungry? Think about the corpo farms.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

The RIAA drove me to piracy in the early days.

Then stuff like Google Play music came along and I stopped because I can actually pay for basically any song I want to listen to, all at my fingertips and that is still true. It makes me happy to support the artists and their music though I know they don't get very much of the cut.

The MPAA was much of the same story.

Then Netflix happened and I was all set for the same thing to happen, but it didn't. Now streaming is almost as fractured as cable TV packages, and I went right back to piracy.

Screw it. I don't feel bad about it because they haven't shown any regard for the people they continually exploit, namely their customers. They don't give any shits if I financially sink while trying to afford to enjoy the things that they make, so I won't give any shits about their financial situation while I enjoy it anyways. Fuck them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

From Limewire to QBitorrent, I've been sailing since I've had a computer.
It's crazy that people aren't aware of the alternatives out there, when all it takes is a little googling. But I guess that's just a sign that the likes of Netflix and Spotify have a stranglehold on mainstream consumers though

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Ironically piracy actually costs more than streaming if you intend to preserve media.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How so?

I have 32tb, bit overkill 8 tb HDD ~$180 X4= $720

Netflix (no ads) 22.99 22.99/720=31.3

As long as you use it for 3 or so years, it pays for itself. The only difference is you have both the hardware and the movies forever.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I pay for netflix, prime, disney+, paramount+, youtube premium, nebula, and a few more services. I buy music and movies, if available, on bluray and rip them to my own jellyfin server.

And yet, about 20% of what I watch, I've got to pirate because there's no reasonable way to actually watch it. Legal ways often only have the German dub, or are lower quality.

(When I was younger, my family was relatively poor, so back then I obviously pirated everything, but once I could afford it I wiped my entire collection and bought the exact same content properly again, for moral reasons obviously but also because I prefer to do rips myself so they've got proper quality).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I personally don't believe in copyright. Nobody should be able to own an idea or data and be able to tell me what i can and cannot do with said 1s and 0s, which is what digital media is. I will find other ways to support artists and creators like going to concerts, donating or buying merchandise etc... You can't steal data because nobody owns it to begin with in my view.

Anything confidential should be kept encrypted or offline of course.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I get what you're saying but copyright is necessary otherwise nobody would create anything. If you can't get compensated for your work then why put the effort in?

Hollywood wouldn't exist without copyright and you might say oh well Hollywood doesn't produce much good, but it does produce the vast majority of media you probably consume. I'm not saying you're completely wrong but I don't think you can just go Copyright = Bad, and leave it at that.

I know that's treason talk

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In a capitalist worldview, which is indeed the system we live in, your point makes sense. However, creative endeavors existed well before the ability to profit off of them. If I didn't want for money in my daily life, I'd still be intensely motivated to create, as it's one of the few things you can genuinely love doing regardless of if it's making you money. Being creative is magnitudes more "basic human instinct" than making money will ever be, and I don't buy for a second that "nobody would create anything" without the profit incentive. I do think that we would have a very different system for sharing our creativity without copyright, and it'd arguably be a better one than what we have now.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It just makes sense.

All I see is people putting on clown makeup when they try to defend paying for a profitable product they could otherwise get for free.

Mark Twain was right. It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they'd been fooled. This generation is full of proud idiots. It gives them a sense of belonging.

At least they're easy to take advantage of.

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