If you want to be taken seriously about child abuse, have you tried not having thumbnails that look like a ten-year-old made them 😂

While lolicon is absolutely disgusting, its not actually csam. Legislation won't work either and is honestly a waste of time. Any effort spent protecting digital children should instead be spent protecting real ones.

In general terms, making an idea illegal, and then making representations of that idea illegal, are going to be forever, at best to treadmill, and at worst reduce the effectiveness and reputation of law.

This is really about thought crime. If somebody can draw stick figures, and that can be illegal depending on interpretation. That's thought crime.

It's impossible to completely stamp out thought crime. Computer tools can be used to further thought crime, because they can be used for creative purposes.

If you restrict the use of creative tools, to only a trusted few, or hobble tools for everyone: you create central authority over creative tools, which has its own issues.

There is no such thing.

God dammit, the entire point of calling it CSAM is to distinguish photographic evidence of child rape from made-up images that make people feel icky.

If you want them treated the same, legally - go nuts. Have that argument. But stop treating the two as the same thing, and fucking up clear discussion of the worst thing on the internet.

You can't generate assault. It is impossible to abuse children who do not exist.

Didn't watch the video, but I don't care about AI CSAM. Even if it looks completely lifelike, it's not real.

Creating, collecting and sharing CSAM is in the law already. There are orgs and agencies for tracking and prosecuting these violations.

It's like fighting against 3d printers because you can make yourself a diy gun, a thing that have never being possible before because we got all pipes banned from hardware stores. The means to produce fictional CSAM always existed and would exist, the problem is with people who use a LMM, a camera, a fanfic to create and share that content. Or a Lemmy community that was a problem in recent months.

It's better to ensure the existing means of fighting such content are effective and society is educated about this danger, know how to avoid and report it.

What the hell is this guy?

"Here's a case where people made and shared fake nudes of real underage girls, doing harm to the girls"

"But what the hell, that's kind of hard to stop. Oh also here's this guy who went to prison for it because it's already illegal."

"Really the obvious solution everyone's missing is: If you're a girl in the world, just keep images of yourself off the internet"

"Problem solved. Right?"

I'm only slightly exaggerating.

Me: I just want real looking dinosaurs with cool, long flowing hair.

Loli stuff isn't CSAM. You can find it bad, but its still just a drawing/generative image. No real person was harmed in general.

The edp picture is very funny

Couldn't the fact that AI generated content be reproduceable if give the exact parameters(or coordinates in latent space) and model help remove the confusion? Include those as meta data and train investigators on how to use to distinguish generated content from actual evidence.