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While the Pixel 6 ushered in three years of major Android OS version updates and an additional two for security patches, that’s still nowhere near the longevity of the iPhone. Google hopes to change that on the Pixel 8 and 8 Pro with noticeably more OS updates.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Longer lifespan? Does this mean they will have user replaceable batteries? I'd consider spending more than $200 on a phone if it could actually be kept in peak condition for more than 4 years.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My pixel 3a is 4 years old and reports 83 percent battery health still. I'll have no problem getting another year out of it. I've made a point of never charging above 80 percent with this phone and it's made a world of difference in how long the battery lasts. Previous phones I owned I would charge to 100 percent overnight every night and needed to swap in a new battery after 12-18 months.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It's fine to charge to 100. Just use a slow charger overnight. Heat is the real enemy. I always have an iPhone and Pixel. My 13 Pro Max is still at 100% battery health (at least it states that. Probably close to 99). I got it when it first came out. I use a ridiculously slow wireless charger. It takes like 3- 4 hours to charge which is perfect overnight. I only get 5-6 hours of sleep per night, so it works out great for me. I also never let it drop below 40% either. If I get close to that I slap it on the charger just enough to get to the overnight charge. That rarely happens.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Has google added a toggle to stop charging at 80% yet? Samsung has it on their devices and I really hope the Pixel has that feature.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Not a toggle but my 4a slow charges over night when I have an alarm set so the battery will reach full just before the alarm goes off. I've woken up in the middle of the night before and sure enough the battery was only at 70-80%. I know its not quite the same, but it is a welcome feature

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Is there a convenient way of doing this? There is no way I can always babysit my device and wait for it to reach 80% and then remove it from the charger.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use home assistant to manage this for me. I have a zwave plug for my phone charger, and when home assistant notices that my phone is at 75% or greater it turns off the plug. It will turn it back on when my phone drops below 65%.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I've actually been thinking about doing this, though I think it would be even better if there was a smart USB socket that could adjust the power output on the fly. For example, you could program a custom charging curve to have full speed charging until 50%, 10 Watts until your desired battery level. For now I guess the smart switch idea is better than nothing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I do the same at 78% on the slowest charger I can find to charge overnight.

I go months without ever charging above 80%. I have to remember to let it drop below 15% and fully charge every once in a while to recalibrate.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I use an app called accubattery and it has an alarm that goes of at 8œ percent then every 5 percent beyond that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If your phone is rooted, AccA is a great option.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Their batteries are currently replaceable. I'd say, personally, that they're the easiest batteries to replace. But if you don't know how to do that, the EU is mandating removable batteries again soon. So maybe the Pixel 9 (maybe even the 8) will have it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Don't forget, it's 3+2 years from release date, not from when you purchase. I think that makes a pretty big difference, especially if you're price comparing current midrange phones versus last year's flagships.

Apple's strategy of releasing 7 years of support for phones also allows it to sell last year's phones as a discounted model. You can go on Apple right now and buy a brand new iPhone 12, released almost 3 years ago, and still count on getting 4 years of updates.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pixel 6 ushered in three years? I did some searching and it looks like every Pixel all the way back to Pixel 1 received three full years of updates. Is it just the additional two years of security updates that's new?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Correct, bringing it to "5" years of updates. Before that it was just a flat 3.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about they give my pixel 3 more updates, it's more than capable of running the current version of Android

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, because...

It's the same reason nobody should ever trust Google's AdWord account specialists. They aren't trying to help you, they just want your money.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Almost approaching Apple then. About time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes but will the hardware still work after that time?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't had any issues with the hardware

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've had issues with the Nexus 6P, Pixel 2, and Pixel 4a. All have had connectivity issues with either Bluetooth or Wi-Fi after 2 years. I assume the antennas that wrap around the outside are getting damaged in my pocket or something else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Cool, I haven't though

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Do you mean to tell me that 4 weeks after I bought a Google smartphone for the first time, partly because they support their phones for so long, Google announced that the next iterations of their smartphones will be supported even longer?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most people won't remember software updates after 4-5 years. People want a reliable phone, easy and cheap to repair. More durable glasses (like the new Huawei/Honor).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, but trusting CCP-compromised companies with your personal phone is not a great idea.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Probably fine if you're not a journalist, activist, politician, public servant or responsible for anything important.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Will it also still continue to overheat like the Pixel though so we get the best of both worlds?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I so resent this market. I'm just jailbreaking the next one or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Feels like they say this every single year – let's see what they'll tell us next