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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This is going to fuck itself up. The predictions are based on what has happened before this information was made easily available. Making it easily available will change booking habits, and thus the prices on offer at different times. Especially as the airlines can (try to) anticipate an avalanche of bookings at particular timepoints and so know that they won't necessarily need to lower prices to fill the flights.

It will be interesting to see how this pans out.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Hopefully it does fuck itself up. Enough for airlines to abandon algorithmic pricing rather than try to outsmart Google

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

thats how it will pan out: google is just adding an extra step to flight booking: making it booking with extra steps.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fortunately, most travel (in the US) is tied to school schedules and I don’t think this will impact those travel patterns or routes. Perhaps shorter weekend trips will see some changes though but I think most people have a decent sense of good prices vs bad even without this type of enhancement from google flights.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's not about when they fly, it's about when they book the tickets.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It’ll be like when everyone started using Google maps and now they just drive 40 mph through the neighborhoods instead of waiting an extra minute on a major road.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Google has an advantage, though, because they bought ITA several years ago, which runs the main database that several major carriers use to schedule flights. Their data is not limited to Google searches, they have all the historical pricing in their database for every possible flight.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That does not make any difference. The act of making the information available changes what will happen in the future. The past becomes a very bad guide.

It's the same sort of thing as with high frequency trading. Quants find a way to profit off particular market movements and in doing so, change the way the market moves. They have to keep updating their models to stay ahead. The difference for Google and flight prices is they don't get new information every microsecond, they can only update on an annual cycle. I don't see how they can possibly make a good job of it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Airline ticket prices do resemble futures or options contracts a bit, though, in that they have a relationship to a certain date, and once past that date they are worthless. Furthermore, futures contracts on commodities (like FCOJ, right, Winthorpe?) are also subject to catastrophic yearly weather events that can wipe out a whole crop.

I think its naive to assume the Quants can't model airline prices given the massive amount of historical data ITA and Google have.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They can model the airline prices.

What they can't do is predict how they will change in response to customers having the data now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But there are times where many people really want or don't want to travel to an specific location because of the weather, events, etc. There is a natural higher demand for some dates, i.e. Christmas, etc., while others have lower demand, i.e., summer in some places. I suspect people that travel without time constrains will be most benefited, ofc, but don't underestimate the number of people who travel with time constraints.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This isn't about when they travel. It's about when they book the flights.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Google Flights today is releasing a new feature that will help travelers better determine the right time to book.

Rolling out this week, the company is debuting new insights that will leverage historical trend data that lets consumers see when prices have typically been lowest to their chosen destination on their selected dates.

The addition aims to help consumers answer the question as to whether it’s better to book their flight now or wait for lower prices.

The feature complements other insights Google Flights already offers, like the ability to see whether current prices for your search are low, typical, or high, compared to past averages.

Some flights will also feature a price guarantee badge which means Google is confident the fare won’t get any lower before departure.

Plus, there’s no longer a “sweet spot” where prices dip before going back up for U.S. trips to Europe, it found.


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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

For low cost carriers, be sure to check their official site because often google will bring up re-sellers as "the cheapest price", which isn't always the case.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

TIL: There was something called Google Flights.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

My experience with it is that it's better at finding good prices than other more popular websites because it shows prices that are closer to reality when you go to actually buy the tickets.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

TIL people use kayak or something?