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What the heck, YouTube? (lemmy.world)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I've only subscribed to YouTube Premium for the past two months, and I like the ad-free experience and Music streaming bundled in one price, PHP159 or $3/month. Will this probably my last? Yesterday morning, Google automatically charged me for my YouTube Premium subscription through my e-wallet service.

It was successfully deducted, but the service didn't update its validity. Does Google want me to charge twice, or they want me to go back on uBlock Origin on Librewolf (desktop) and NewPipe on Android? lol

EDIT (2023-10-22): Google recently refunded the amount to my e-wallet. So far, my account is still active. If ever Google bans my account, then probably my domain will be banned.

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Just go back to uBlock Origin. No reason to give Google more money, they don't respect their customers.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

you're not their customer, the ad companies are.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

And this is exactly why I will never pay for Premium (again; I unfortunately did for a while) or any other Google service

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

true, we're the product offered to ad companies

[+] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

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[+] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

As an Asian, online subscriptions tend to be cheaper than US. Is my PHP159 ($3) can support 14 different Patreons? E.g. RedLetterMedia's Patreon will cost me $2 per month.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

you could support 14 different Patreon

by watching YT with Premium, I support far more than 14 creators. The difference per 1k views of normal vs premium views is a couple orders of magnitude

(Plus, I also pay about 100 bucks a month for various patreon creators)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Fucking hell, that's a lot of money to give away each month. Good for you!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I would much rather pay creators directly via Patreon. That's quite the amount of money. I commend you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

For me, personally, I don't really mind how YouTube and other streaming services split their earnings to creatives. If one service stints mine, consumer's general experience, better to move somewhere similar. I'm glad that I subscribed YouTube Premium for two months, but right now, if they're not refunding me... then I should do the ethical one

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No reason

I have reason: Costs. Recently in my region, Spotify racked their price from ₱129 to ₱149, ₱10 difference with YouTube Premium.

Plus, Spotify keeps shoving their podcast platform on my feed, which is annoying, and I'm only streaming music. I rather see or listen to something from my followed channels.

P.S. I only created a Google account just for YouTube and for my Android device, nothing else. I don't use other mainstream Google products.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wait until you hear that podcasts are gonna come to YouTube Music

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

So there is no escape? Fck me then.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Use uBlock Origin on PC to watch YouTube without ads, NewPipe on mobile, and InnerTune for free ad free music using the YouTube music library, and no need to give Google money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah I have greyjay, newpipe and revanced on my phone in case youtube does some funky shit. I think piped.video works on pc too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

InnerTune

I will try this later. Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

So far they said that they plan to offer podcasts for free if that helps any.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Apple Music has held off on including podcasts so far.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (14 children)

I primarily use iOS to watch YouTube. I haven’t found good solutions.

It’s the media platform I use the most. With Premium, I’m evenly supporting at least 50 creators that I watch regularly. I couldn’t meaningfully do that for the same price through Patreon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

The best solution I’ve found for the YouTube shenanigans on iOS is the baking soda and vinegar apps.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sideload uYou plus with Altstore if you want to keep all the account functionality.

Download Yattee from the App store if you prefer to watch with Piped.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

No I don’t want piped, like the recommendations in YouTube. No way I’ll side load.

Sounds like Premium is a good choice for me personally.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sideload an alternative YouTube app with Altstore

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It’s cool that the option exist, but it isn’t worth it to me.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do not issue a chargeback through your bank if you care about your Google account. They will close it. Talk to Google to resolve the payment issue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I'm not even using my bank's debit card as my Google's payment method. I linked my e-wallet account to my Google account.

I don't risk my bank's savings.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's not about your bank account, it's about google possibly banning your google account if you do a chargeback. If you don't care about losing your google account, then you're fine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's weird because I've been using my e-wallet as my payment method on my former (now deleted) Google account for years, and never had issues with automatic renewal of my "Premium Pass" from one mobile game I used to play.

I will contact Google regarding this matter later.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Google permabans accounts immediately for chargebacks

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

google recently refunded me. so far, my account is still active.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's different from a bank chargeback.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago

It was successfully deducted, but the service didn't update its validity.

You paid them real money. So they have to answer properly what they did and eventually fix it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Switch to firefox with ublock origin. Its more than heaven 🔥🔥

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'm on ungoogled-chromium. Librewolf keeps breaking a website I frequently visits.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Librewolf != Firefox, fwiw.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I haven't encountered these issues with Librewolf. What kind of websites are breaking?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Its a security certificate issue. It can be solved via about:config. security.OCSP.require set to false

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

revanced and smartubenext

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ublock on Desktop GreyJay on mobile

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

And SmartTube for Android TV / Google TV devices.

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