As someone living in Europe I'm more concerned with American companies harvesting my data.
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Just curious: Why would you prefer your data to be harvested in China vs. the US?
Don't use sketchy VPN apps, at all. The fact that they're Chinese owned is irrelevant.
Honestly, I wouldn't trust most commercial VPNs these days, especially the ones that are nearly always on 100% discount sales. If they're not making their revenue from customers, they must be making it some other way. And that's a mighty fine data set they're sitting on.
Do you trust the NSA, ICANN, IANA (all headquartered in the USA) etc and that SSL/TLS cert authorities haven't been backdoored to hell and back? (Probably a decade+ since top level cert authorities were found to be backdoored but who cares amirite.)
Oh no, China is stealing your data! Wait, America is also stealing your data and you don't care? Hmm.
About as much as I trust the yanks.
So, trust your VPN service. Makes sense.
it can’t be worse that what DOGE has done.
you can move onto proxies, or even host your own, but thats going to cost money.(yea thats what the of ACCOUNTS, AND LINK FARMING accts use on reddit these days). VPn is way to compromised and abused already.
What’s China going to do with your data? Far less than your own country can.
If the choice is between China and your own country, China every day.
But that's not the choice
You don’t think it is, but yeah it pretty much is. The only VPN company I know of who has proven in court that they don’t keep logs is PIA.
So choose PIA lol
I have been using PIA for the last like 10 years :)
The point was that you’re not going to have the CCP come knocking on your door to arrest you unless you live in china, whereas your own country’s government could.
That is until they have enough data to be able to sabotage a major part of your country's infrastructure and use it as a bargaining chip to exploit your country, then it won't be less damage. Its just theoretical, but we know that's one of the reason any country collect data from another country's citizens.
Just weigh the risks every time instead of defaulting to a position of China all the time.
China hasn't revealed itself to be Cthulhu, unlike the US or Russia. So for me yes, it's China at every turn unless a local option exists.
What does that even mean?
It means I trust China more than the US.
I don't see a problem here. Capitalism has already done this. At least they have competition.
My problem is his general conclusion to always prefer China. Making predetermined decision without considering the situation you're in is kinda stupid.
Sincerely, what is China going to do with it? Open a Chinese bank account in my name? If any institution in the us accepts account openings from a chinese or vpn ip address then it cant be trustworthy enough to ever affect me.