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youtube getting more aggressive.. i've got firefox and ublock but this shit is still coming up

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[–] [email protected] 288 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Get Firefox, install uBlock Origin, clear the filter cache, and reload the filter cache.

Worked for me and my dad

It is time to stop the Chrome plauge.

[–] [email protected] 161 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's currently working, but every few days youtube will tweak something, and sometime later (minutes to hours) there will be an ublock update for it.

Sometimes you have to wait a little longer, but this is the arms race.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I find it funny that a company as big as Google is loosing to little ol uBlock

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's often far easier to attack than defend.

Google has to find and block every way, ublock just has to make a new way to bypass the blocks.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Classic mantra of cybersecurity. "We've up be right every time, they've to be right only once."

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They're working on a final solution to the ad blocker problem. If they're successful in pushing their Web Environment Integrity API, there's nothing Firefox or ublock will be able to do.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

yep.. i did. they keep coming up, somehow. very annoying.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

I switched over to piped.video and no ads. Just moved my subscriptions over. Not sure how long it will last but so far it's good

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My family watches several Youtube channels on the main HTPC. It had Chrome for them to use, as that is what the kids and my wife are familiar with from school/ work. Then this BS started. I use Firefox on my personal PC and have yet to have a problem.

So I dumped Chrome off of the HTPC.

It would be amusing if Chrome lost a ton of market share to Firefox and other browsers.

[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It won't. We are an extreme minority who really have the know-how to get around this. The majority will just give in and subscribe.

This is what happened with Netflix. Everyone thought that Netflix would lose subscribers with the crackdown on password sharing. On the contrary, they gained subscribers and is bringing even more revenue: https://www.ign.com/articles/netflix-adds-88-million-subscribers-amid-password-sharing-crackdown-hikes-prices-for-some-plans.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (9 children)

In other words, the general population likes to be used by companies and really don't give a shit as long as they can watch videos.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

not so much that they like to be used by companies, but that they don't care enough to change or learn how to stop it. for most people, the idea of giving up their favorite online service because of ads or whatever other predatory anti consumer shit it implements is a little extreme.

as long as it works, the vast majority of people who are not tech-literate will just use it regardless.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sharing this: don't know why this works, but my dad found refreshing the cache in UBlock makes this thing finally shut the fuck up.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

It updates Ublocks filters. They are updating those as YouTube changes things. Ublock has worked flawlessly on firefox YouTube for me so far. I have not even seen the popup once.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Honestly, if YouTube offered a $5 adfree video plan I’d pay for it. It’s not worth $14/month in my opinion

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think these companies are starting to run into the brick wall caused by disgusting wealth inequality and the subsequent inability to spend as frivolously as needed for a healthy economy.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

That's the YouTube Premium Lite plan that they killed off less than a month ago.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Youtube would profit off of $2 a month the fact that they need to charge 14 is just greed

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

According to the latest reports, over 2.70 billion people worldwide use YouTube per month.

This was 2022 and there is conflicting figures, most of which are 2 billion to 2.8 billion regular users (regular use of at least once a week, most daily.) https://www.globalmediainsight.com/blog/youtube-users-statistics/

Google has claimed youtube costs 5 billion a year to run back in 2019 but has never put out a solid figure or statement to the public, Entourage Marketing & Design did research in 2019 but the article seems to be down as I can't locate the actual source. This could be inaccurate today but all information I've seen points to it still being single digit billions to operate year to year.

If these figures are accurate, 2USD from their claimed regular users would put them near their break even point without even considering income from advertisers or other investors and business opportunities. If they really did intend for every adult youtube user (roughly 80% of their audience) to pay them 14USD a month, that's still over five times their operating costs alone.

Clearly, youtube is getting a lot more money from advertisers then they are from premium users, which is why they are trying to make the free to use option on their website so awful and unbearable that people will pay them directly to skip the ads (though rumblings have been going around at them finding ways to insert ads into premium user viewing experience as well.) And since the advertising side is so toxic and predatory they can tell when people are using ad blockers to avoid it, it reports back they aren't watching ads and thus tries to prevent people from utilizing the service entirely until their participation generates money for youtube.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ublock Origin Settings - Clear Cache - Update - Refresh Youtube

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (11 children)

It's a matter of who gets tired quicker at this point, YouTube, ublock maintainers, or users. We're on the losing side, and alternative front ends sound like the "we're cornered" solution. I imagine Google won't take long to break them as well.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm glad, uBlock Origin blocks all these adblock blockers.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't. This is being rolled out to all users. Eventually you will have to clear cash every time you want to watch YouTube with Ublock Origin.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Good point! Clearing cache on exit is my firefox' default setting. Do recommend!

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

A reminder that if this doesn't work, they'll bake ads into the player like Hulu and Twitch. Can't block those, at least in a way that gets you back to the content seemlessly.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

then we'll just do a sponsorblock type solution which skips over the ad

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I knew Google would get around to killing YouTube sooner or later: Looks like the slow death has begun.

Like all things Google that people like: It must die, Google will not allow it to live.

Coming to you in 2025: GoogleTube, brought to you by Alphabet!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

there's enough people mindlessly consuming content off the site via mobile or tv, or are clueless about adblockers to begin with, youtube will continue to exist and be profitable even if every adblocking user never visited the site again.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

This pop up, did more to curb my youtube addiction than any other app.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (11 children)

You WILL give us your attention and you will like it! -advertisers

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I just clear the YT sites' cookies, relog in and it disappears. I use AdNauseam and uBlock Origin and still got this.

If they weren't so intrusive with the garbage ads (I hate publicity, over 95% of it is condescending and/or lies), I wouldn't mind seeing an ad in the beggining, or even also an additional in the middle of a long video, but getting two unskippable ads in the beggining and one every 5 mins or less is abusive. So fuck you Google.

Going to install a local instance of Piped or Invidious.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What could come of people clicking on the “Report issue” option and sending back tons of false reports claiming that they have gotten the pop-up message despite not using an ad-blocker?

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You can put up with that... Or you could just switch to a Piped instance and be done with it all.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Piped is great, the content goes through a proxy so there's no interaction with YouTube servers and your account and subscriptions are also isolated.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's revanced / gray Jay time

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

While uBlock Origin does the trick and has for a every long time, I just installed FreeTube and I am quite happy with it. It is also much better at keeping track at what I have watched, and I can even mark videos as watch (which I cannot over at YouTube).

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