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Tesla has confirmed its latest bait-and-switch: Cybertruck owners will not get the Autosteer feature they paid for.

Instead, they will get a year of ‘Supervised Full Self-Driving’.

When Tesla started delivering the Cybertruck in late 2023, the software was incomplete, especially regarding its Advanced Driver Assist System (ADAS) features like ‘Supervised (FSD) Full Self-Driving’, which was included in the price of all early Cybertrucks.

It took Tesla almost a year to start releasing its FSD on the Cybertruck.

After Tesla stopped making new Cybertruck Foundation Series, which are fully loaded with all options, buyers started to have the option of buying the $8,000 FSD package or keeping only the Autopilot package, which is included in the price.

Autopilot’s two main features are Traffic Aware Cruise Control and Autosteer. The first is self-explanatory, while Autosteer is Tesla’s name for active lane keeping.

The vast majority of Tesla vehicle owners don’t buy the FSD package.

As of now, 16 months after Tesla started delivering the Cybertruck, the automaker has yet to deliver Autosteer on the electric pickup truck.

Today, Tesla started reaching out to Cybertruck owners to let them know that it won’t make Autosteer available for Cybertruck owners who haven’t bought FSD:

“As we improve our Autopilot technology, our feature sets will change. Accordingly, Autosteer will not be available for Cybertruck outside of Full Self-Driving (Supervised).“

Instead, Tesla offers a year of free FSD trial to Cybertruck owners.

More details in the article.

My favorite part is how they're now saying both "full self-driving' and "supervised".

Archive link: https://archive.is/1w64R

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

Oh well, atleast they are making bank running the Tesla as automated robo taxis while they aren't using them like Elon promised.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

Despite that people love to talk about Tesla and also cybertrucks, this is reminder to never buy anything for promised features. If you wouldn't be happy with the existing features just don't buy it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

I don't feel bad for anyone that was dumb enough to buy Elon's crappy products.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

umm... good? This might actually might have saved some lives.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

By not delivering lane-keeping? I appreciate the unreasoning hatred, but some reasoning would be good too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Sometimes, my lane assist function thinks that random pot holes and scabby bits of road are lanes and tries to push me over into the path of other cars without warning.

I turned it off.

My car is not a tesla, but from what i understand about teslas, they are prone to this same issue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

I've actually found the lane keeping in my Mitsubishi to be basically flawless when operating. Potholes and the like don't seem to give it any issues at all.

It does lose track of the lanes and periodically disable if the lines are faded or absent for more than a few meters, but at least then it just switches to normal steering and doesn't swerve me into traffic or anything.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So besides Trump and Musk being passionate fuck buddies, how is this legal? Surely this is fraud and deceit right?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

A fine is just a fee for breaking the law.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Lmao they put lane-keeping assist behind a marketing-wank paywall for their already expensive EVs - something manufacturers like Subaru and Hyundai has made standard across their entire line for years now

What a sad joke this company has become, another example of failed leadership valuing yes-men and sycophancy

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I rode in a 2019 Subaru Ascent (like a big Outback) a few years ago, the lane keep assist was great even back then, not to mention the blind spot monitoring and all that. and it was all included. wtf is Tesla even doing with all that time and money??

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

My base model 2019 Sonata has pretty decent blind spot monitoring too. A couple of days after I got the car it's blind spot monitoring saw a speeding vehicle going too fast for me to see it coming (they turned off of another street a handful of houses up then must've floored the gas) as I was backing out and went flying past. It literally saw the speeding car through another vehicle and gave me enough warning to stop safely.

Sometimes it does yell at me that a fence is present at the edge of the lane I'm merging into, but it's just alerting beeping that can be disabled with 1 physical button press so it's very useful for rush hour beltline driving, even if I have yet to have it spot a vehicle I haven't in any other situations

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah, plus the assist feature shuts itself off when it can't be used (ie. driving into the sun) unlike Tesla's version that instead chooses to ram you into a building then blames you for it by disengaging 0.1 seconds before the collision.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I love mine. Combined with adaptive cruise, it’s amazing for slowly rolling traffic, longer journeys, and stop-and-go traffic. I’m under no impression the car is ‘driving’ but having a machine take over the mental load is great and frees up that capacity for other driving tasks and/or awareness of the road.

Tesla calling that technology “Auto” anything without it being genuinely 100% autonomous should have landed someone a fat fine or jail time

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Hyundai Lanekeep is better than teslas too

[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 days ago (5 children)

It’s absolutely pitiful that they can’t figure out lane-keeping when a cars a fraction of the price have it.

It’s also a huge red flag that they are shipping “self driving” but can’t do lane keep assist.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

I have this on my Honda Fit for fuck's sake.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh they know how to do it. They are just desperate to swindle existing owners since their vehicle sales have fallen off a cliff.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I don’t think they can, because they’re suffering so much from the rectal-cranial inversion that Musk started with his FSD.

Muskrat insists on using computer vision entirely, and building it in-house. Tesla (probably EM) as I recall also insulted MobilEye so they refuse to do business with them. Mind you, I think lane keeping is generally a computer vision problem.

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[–] [email protected] 121 points 2 days ago

Buy from a con-man, get conned. Whoop-de-doo-de-doo.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Isn't Supervised Full Self-Driving an oxymoron? How can it be both Supervised and Full Self-Driving?

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago (4 children)

How can it be both Supervised and Full Self-Driving?

It is not all the same.

You are full.
The car is self driving.
Tesla's interns in India are supervising both you and the car.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (8 children)

It can't be both. It's not self-driving. That's just what they call it to oversell it. I'm assuming they had to add the "Supervised" part for legal reasons.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Tesla is the Fyre Festival of automotive manufacturers, except in this case Billy has managed to keep the kite in the air for an astonishingly long time.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

every non-vandalized cybertruck is an affront to decent society

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Class action goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago

Snake oil salesman.

VW where rightly punished for Dieselgate yet seems like the Texan is getting away with it (again). I also blame the US media. Remember to this date Tesla has never spent a cent advertising in America, their entire hype machine has been fuelled by sites like The Verge (until they eventually woke up a few years back - by which point Tesla had already sold gazillions of shares and took customers deposits). This is why we need real journalism more than ever, the bodies that regulate these cowboys are no longer fit for purpose.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I hope every single person who has, or ever will, buy a cybertruck a lifetime of misery and misfortune

May they stub their toe on every step for the rest of their life

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