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The Ministry of Justice is developing a system that aims to ‘predict’ who will commit murder, as part of a “data science” project using sensitive personal data on hundreds of thousands of people.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Reminder to watch Minority Report again... I don't even remember whether that movie was any good or not

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago

Can't believe that movie is looking to become a reality in my lifetime.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago

It’s great!

[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is Tom Cruise going to run the program?

Call it Minority Report

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Because they will inevitably target minorities?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Because of the early 2000's movie Minority Report that has this exact same plot and is starred by Tom Cruise.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey, remember when pre-musk twitter had to turn off their extremism automod for republican politicians because they were constantly spewing the same patterns of extremist content that actual ISIS-supporting accounts were?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not superstitious, but I'm starting to think that the 30s are cursed, the closer we get to them the worse Europe gets.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 week ago (2 children)

570 recorded homicides between March 2023 and 2024.

Data on "hundreds of thousands" of people can't provide the distinguishing markers to even have a stab at this.

It can reliably predict when people are black, though.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It can predict blackness with up to 63% accuracy!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

a stab

I see what you did there 😄

[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 week ago

And it will say people of lower economic classes and foreign origin are the biggest risk. Will action be taken to help these people? Nah. This is just going to be a technological excuse for some good ol' repression.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Precrime will have had been here?

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Great—let’s test it on politicians and law enforcement first.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Oh boy! ...Here we go, dropping a new Dystopia again!

So... What happens when it is wrong?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We find out the guy running the tool has been manipulating it and is the murderer.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Touché, indeed.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

No it is never wrong, just super early. Just arrest people at 18 for crime they will do at 60 obviously.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Didn't they try this in Florida and it basically became officers harassing the fuck out of a teenage kid and his mom at all hours of the night?

E: yeah, fuck this shit.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago

It's the minority report wtf

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

hey lets feed the guessing machine crime data generated from policing by a bunch of racist ass cops. No way will the resulting "predictions" be racist

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

at first i thought your suggestion was to feed the machine racist cops to find them and got all hyped ):

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

This will only dehumanize and discriminate people that enjoy drugs or have been kicked down by society. It will never catch the people that are actual killers. The only ones that can be predicted are those kids in gangs with their machetes. But those are all a risk already.

I wonder if it will flag a lack of social care by the government as possible factor. Lmao.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Be ready to go to jail for shit you never did, and then be forced to watch the thing you never did for your entire sentence. What do you think you'll do when you are released?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're assuming they'll ever release you.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

"I'm sorry; we predicted that, if we were to release you now, you'll murder someone."

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's actually the idea. It's not general precrime, it's a decision support tool for predicting recidivism when deciding parole cases.

That doesn't mean it's not on decidedly shonky ground statistically speaking.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is it gonna be a list of all the police and military?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

No silly, not after they input race.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Why are they rebooting "Minority Report?" The Tom Cruise version was excellent, we don't need a new one.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Getting closer to PSYCHO-PASS

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Thought crimes. Neat.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So what's the plan after that? You can't arrest people until after they commit the crime. Otherwise it gets confusing.

The UK isn't the US, the government can't just do whatever it wants and get away with it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Stop falling for the liberal trap that laws and bureaucracy will somehow magically save you from fascism. It won't. This is just the start. They're slowly warming you all up to it until it's going to be too late. There's no such thing as "This can't happen here!". It definitely can, and it definitely will if you don't organise and stop it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It would be hilarious to see random civilians being casually followed by a policeman (policeperson?), overtly and cheerfully "nah mate, you haven't done a thing. I'm just here to watch. For now. Carry on."

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (7 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I think I saw a Tom Hanks movie about this

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

WIIILLLLSSSSOOOONNNN!!!!!

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