this post was submitted on 11 Oct 2023
44 points (84.4% liked)

Technology

59148 readers
2266 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

A world of AI-assisted writing and reviewing might transform the nature of the scientific paper.

all 14 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Finally... Scientific publishing really needs a dramatic change. It is an awful, corrupted mess (source: I have written papers published in high impact factor journals)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's terrible but AI tools can only make it worse.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Worse than now? Is it even possible?

I am an optimistic, let's see in few years and finger crossed

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The main probably with scientific publishing is that our threshold for statistical significance is way too low.

If we allow the threshold to sit at a 1 percent chance that results of the study were random chance, it means that 1 percent of all publications at that level of certainly are going o mislead the public if the media reports on them. And with the volume of research published every day, that adds up to a LOT of misinformation.

It's not even bad science, it's bad reporting and widespread scientific illiteracy. But neither of those are going away.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Also certain fields (cough cough medicine) needs to consider more than just the p value. With any large sample size you're almost guaranteed to find a "significant" result in some test, but the effect sizes are often so tiny to be basically meaningless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Problem of science is corrupted funding, toxic environment, mafia-like organizations and practices, exploitation, widespread corruption.

The current amount of bad science is due only to that. Even before reaching mainstream media, of which I don't care. Unmanageable excess of meaningless published work is just a side effect of all above. Clearly it cannot change from inside, as current system selects only those who agree or compromise.

A revolution must come from outside. Tools and platforms like arxiv, github, hugging face are already demonstrating that alternative way of working exists, better ways to spread science and facilitate collaboration, increasing quality. Unfortunately they do not currently represent a real alternative outside niche fields, were quality, reproducibility and speed of evolution are critical. But also alternative tools such these can alleviate a minimal part of the huge problems.

I am honestly curious too see how "scientific" system will evolve, because it will. Because as it is now it is doomed to miserably continue falling down even further...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

+1, same source.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Anytime a tech bro uses the word disrupt I think they are either completely full of shit or actively trying to destroy society as we know it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Here’s the thing: it’s usually both!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh, I have this idea for a social media platform called Hate Furnace. The whole point is to disrupt the social media landscape by maximizing revenue, privacy violations, corrosive atmosphere and abrasive relationships. Instead of making friends, you make enemies in the Hate Furnace. Instead of following someone, you stalk them.

Hate Furnace - Watch the world burn!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They're just thinking about the potential pile of VC money it represents.