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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Kinda sucks android atuo is s google feature rather than an android feature

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah I really wish there was some sort of other option.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure there's an android auto API for music apps and stuff (that's why Spotify and pocket casts and many audiobook players support it), but unfortunately there aren't non-Google navigation apps (unsure if that's because Google won't allow them or because there just aren't any).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Our local Google competitor has an map app and they did add Android auto and Apple carplay support.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh that's cool! Is this local for the Czech Republic? How does it compare to Google maps/navigation?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It uses openstreetmap data, except for our country and slovakia, where it uses its own map data. Although it has a some features aimed only at our country it can be used by anyone around the world without problem. In comparison to google maps it's much more usable for hiking and cycling thanks to it's less dull map graphic. Since the app is owned by a profit company it requires you to login to be able to use some of the basic features, like saving routes or recorded tracks, which is a pity. I am not really fan of Seznam (company behind it) and their services, but their maps are probably their most useful and well-done usable service. It has a web version too: https://en.mapy.cz. when it comes to navigation it has no traffic information except in our country. I would say that the navigation is average, but generally works well.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sometimes I don't think Google even care about Android car experience at all, even Google Maps somehow always bugs out at the most inconvenient times when you are driving.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It will not let me remove an address near my house that is not my house. It is the first option all day every day. It's so annoying.

Also no YouTube implementation, you'd imagine background playback would be supported

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't even use google maps. Just doesn't show up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This happens to me. If you bounce between menus, you can get it back. Get to the screen where the apps are round icons, from a screen other than maps. The maps icon will get you back. I'm on a stock pixel, no excuse for this.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The whole app is recycled dogshit. Songs freeze, half the time it won't recognize my phone and the list goes on.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had those issues but they went away after I got a shorter USB cord.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Might have to give that a whirl. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Yeah, unfortunately it seems that the Google "can't care to test updates" has been extended from some edge services to their main ones and only keeps on growing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hate to say it but my issues with Android Auto are part of what pushed me to trying out iPhone again. Haven’t had any issues with CarPlay.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Been an android guy forever until this year and car play is SO much better. I figured the touch screen in my Kia was just a little slow and shitty. It wasn’t. It was my pixel 7. Car play is so fast and responsive in comparison.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Not sure what everyone else is doing, I use Android Auto constantly for work on a lot of rental cars without issue. The bugginess is probably crap cables or old phones, check those.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Google is notorious for A/B testing (usually a good idea) so they roll out changes in batches and look at telemetry for any changes in user behaviour. You might just be the lucky late adopter for those changes that someone tested for you a month earlier.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well that's presumptive. I use a Pixel 7 in a 2022 vehicle. When I plug it in I have to open the USB settings EVERY TIME and switch to MIDI before it recognizes the device. I have bugs with Waze, and my music will pause regularly with no connection issues.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is more of a workaround than a fix, but you can change the default USB configuration in the developer settings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you! I'll try that out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bought a new cable just to use it in a rental car. I had to keep switching between Bluetooth and the cable because my music would only work on one and maps on the other. Then the phone wouldn't work while charging, so I just drove in silence for hours so it wouldn't die on me because then I'd be really lost. After multiple rental cars and multiple cables, I've never had even a decent experience with it and it pisses me off to no end. It just crosses the line into actually being dangerous on top of being inconvenient.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I know it might not be helpful, but, I've experienced bad USB slots in the rental cars. I'm sure they got a lot of abuse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah I remember having issues only once and I'm pretty sure that was Waze rather than Android Auto.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This has been my experience as well. I've been using it on my Honda since 2015, and have not had any problems except 2. Once it was just an old USB cable that needed to be replaced. The other issue was sometimes the Bluetooth doesn't connect the right way so I have to turn off Bluetooth on my phone then connect the USB to my phone which forces it to connect correctly. The Bluetooth issue was recurring (once every month or two), but hasn't happened for nearly a year now.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I HATE android auto... it is constantly crashing. I wish they would just QA the software or something.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's more likely that auto manufacturers put the oldest shittest slowest chips in cars that crash constantly because they can't handle any load at all.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn't the whole point of android auto that it uses your phone and the display is just an external display when in that mode?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still requires overhead and a non-zero number of head units are built on, this may shock you, Android.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My experience has been that anything on QNX works fine, and anything else is hit or miss.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you find what platforms run on QNX? I'd prefer that on my car over other options.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You'd have to look it up for your make and model, but previous gen Hyundai Kia Genesis tend to run on QNX. Don't know what the new gen runs on.

Apparently some head units even run Linux!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Hyundai Mobis head units for Kia run on Android 11 from what I've seen. Unless they've changed to QNX

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yep, current eCMP platform by stellantis e.g. runs Linux and containers per "application" (radio, nav, backup camera...) for their nav capable head unit. Those are made by Continental and are called NAC, current gen is WAVE4.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I use android auto in numerous rental cars. Some head units are so slow to process taps or menu selections that it is pretty much unusable.

The normal headunit UI is generally ok, so either there's a whole lot of overhead for android auto, or some programmer simply dropped the base example implementation of it into the system and did zero work at optimising it.

Personally, I'm betting that it's the latter. "Supports Android Auto" box has been ticked on the feature sheet, send it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Had to go through four USB cables in my car before one worked reliably with my current phone. A "10Gbit/s certified" USB-C cable did the trick, plus two layers of aluminum tape on the lower outer side of the car side USB plug to make the connection less wiggly.

The phone before that worked fine with any cable, but apparently some combinations of head unit and phone have relatively thin error margins on the actual physical layer of the connection.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Happened to me once.

I hit the home button on the headunit to dump out of Android Auto back to the headunit's UI, went back into AA, and it reappeared.

Hasn't happened again since.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Android auto and always been a buggy mess. I was very disappointed when I first tried to use it, and the consecutive two months, until eventually I gave up and went back to normal bluetooth

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Vast majority of the time my AA works fine. I use Waze 99% of the time. Occasionally double check through Maps. I use PowerAmp as my music player. All my music is on my phone, not a streaming service.