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AI Summary:

Overview:

  • Mozilla is updating its new Terms of Use for Firefox due to criticism over unclear language about user data.
  • Original terms seemed to give Mozilla broad ownership of user data, causing concern.
  • Updated terms emphasize limited scope of data interaction, stating Mozilla only needs rights necessary to operate Firefox.
  • Mozilla acknowledges confusion and aims to clarify their intent to make Firefox work without owning user content.
  • Company explains they don't make blanket claims of "never selling data" due to evolving legal definitions and obligations.
  • Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable, but ensures data is anonymized or shared in aggregate.
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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

Great, but a web browser still does not need terms of service. There's no ongoing relationship between the user and the creator of the browser, at least, there shouldn't be unless the user signs up for additional optional services.

It's great if Mozilla wants to offer some optional services users can opt in to, and those services probably need terms. I use Firefox Sync, though I've started to reconsider that given the recent fuss. The browser itself? I'll move to a fork first, and stop recommending Firefox to others.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Too late. I've already moved to another browser

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

cool, sounds good. (the Community gif where Troy walks into the room with Pizza, Pierce has been shot, and there's fire everywhere)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Pornhub now remembers what sort of porn you like while browsing incognito. Is this also happening with other browsers? I just don't wanna have my wife know what kid of bdsm I really like. It keeps things fun that way. Fun, gun, hun, nun, are all too close on the keyboard. Autocorrect can't fix that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pornhub now remembers what sort of porn you like while browsing incognito.

Are you sure? All incognito windows run in the same memory space. If you open one window and do something in it, that session data is available to any other open incognito window open. To clear this ALL incognito windows need to be closed. Once they are all closed, you should be able to open a single new one and have no remnants of the previous sessions left over for the website to know you. The exceptions to this are if they are tracking activity from your IP address or if they are using Browser Fingerprinting on your session so they know even if you come from a different IP they know its your computer.

I run into the IP tracking sometimes. The wife will be doing searches for some specific thing, and I'll see youtube recommendations show up on those topics even though I'm running youtube via incognito on completely different hardware (but we're both using the same public IP).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure there's something even more perverse happening maybe IP tracking. Maybe phone location tracking. Like when I search for stuff on Google here at home on my phone that stuff appears on my work Google (where I have never actually logged in to Google with any account). It maybe a server side user profile tracking system that we haven't seen before. Instead of tracking a user via IP, you look at a location... Then you look at what people are searching for in that location and you develop a profile for that particular hardware ID.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

reddit does the same thing to, to identify ban evaders, except reddit turned it up a notch in doing this. i think only anti-detect browsers can alleviate that

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

yet you missed the elephant in the room.

kid

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Whats the alternative on android?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Fennec is maintained by Mozilla lol

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

I’m eagerly awaiting the new version but I already like it. They now admit that they are sharing and sometimes selling private data (anonymized or not, same thing).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

The simple way to deal with this is through extensions. Collect anonymized data through an extension, let the user decide to opt-out if they want.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Too late for me personally, I've gone ahead and moved over to Zen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Brodie thinks that they still left themselves some wiggle room for ""selling"" user data.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I guess it is time to start setting up Nyxt.

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