It is troublesome but I feel like the problem is intractable.
this post was submitted on 02 Oct 2023
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For personal use, but corporations trying to profit off of it could be fined 100% of their assets if need be.
I'm down with that.
But it won't stop it from spreading like wildfire.
I envision websites that openly allow you to do stuff like this with fine print disclaimers about trying to profit off that content.
Proving it happening is going to be difficult..more difficult than telling Vanilla Ice from Queen/Bowie.
There is currently no way to copyright a voice. There is also no good definition of what a voice even is legally.
It has always been happening to some degree. Casters would cast someone who sound like that other person etc. Happens to music all the time. Tv shows have cover music that is soo close to the song it's supposed to remind the viewer of but just isn't technically. Voices are going to much more difficult, especially with AI spitting out audio of what it would have sounded like if a certain person had said it, but didn't. It'll be impossible.
This will be the death of voice acting.
Sure there is, it’s called likeness or personality rights
Yeah, and as for the "there's no way to tell"
Well when somebody is selling shit like "Robin Williams Alexa Nest voice $19.99 GPS narration" or bullshit like that, it'll be pretty obvious.
A voice that sounds kinda "like Robin Williams" without being outright stated as such - or using his voice and others as a seed for AI generated output - might be a lot more difficult to pin down.
US corporations are all salivating at how they can cut out workers using technology and make record profits, but it'll be a quick turnaround from every other country full of sellers who don't give a fuck about copyright undercutting them on the market. Once that happens, they'll be clamoring for "better regulation" and it'll be too late.
I never understood this, because who is going to bu
I never understood this, because who is going to bu
Well to the last, yes definitely.. it'll become worthless as a skill. Once you can make an AI that speaks any line perfectly you don't need anyone special to do it.. joe shmoe off the street would be just as good a 'voice actor' as the current professionals. There's obviously skill in making the AI do that seamlessly but that's a different job.
Translation went through something similar. It used to be something you paid someone a lot of money for now you just type the sentence into your phone.
if i write a bunch of words i can't be wrong
I like this. I don't mind the use itself for limited purposes, I just don't think there should be any financial benefit to it.
It sucks, but it is the price of selling one's self to the public spotlight.
Much like internet culture has taken decades to develop some basic sense of civility, it will take a long time for these tools to normalize with a morality culture of some kind. I figure, the best course is always treat others like you want to be treated. Most people are not trying to hurt anyone, they just haven't thought through the consequences of what they are doing.
What we really need in the short term is a path of least resistance to make AI characters and tools that provide an easier way to create projects, demonstrations, and art. It is the availability of media containing public figures that is primarily driving this kind of thing. If it was easier to find and use a digital alternative entity, I think most people would use it as an alternative.
One thing I have tried is to use an amalgamated creation of people that are accessible in the dataset, (PersonA:PersonB). If done well, the final results can be consistent and unrecognizable as either person.
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"AI Claps Back With AI Recreation of Robin Williams' Daughter"
The response we are seeing from actors now is very similar to what happened when video recording was introduced.
One of the reasons so many old TV shows like Dr Who are lost is because of rules actors forced requiring their fees be paid a second time after a performance being shown a certain number of times. The broadcasters ended up just destroying the tapes after broadcasting it.
Whatever happens I just hope nothing is lost this time.
it's a lot harder to make stuff disappear these days
It's harder to fully erase things, but it's also still very hard to preserve things. Video games on dead consoles and that ran on housing servers are a prime example.
fair point