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ive been using/managing/fixing computers and servers for 40+ years. from old AS400 to full on cloud bullshit. i can remember only a single time where boot time mattered... when microsofts DNS failures caused servers to take 15 minutes to boot.. other than that there hasnt been a single time it has ever been a problem or discussed as an issue to be resolved.

so why the fuck is it constantly touted as some benefit!? it grinds my gears when i see anyone stating how fast their machine booted.

am i alone in this?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I think they're just new boot goofin'.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Yes, a single setting on the BIOS for AM5 changed my boot time from ~80 seconds to about 25 seconds which in turn greatly improved my life and cured my depression. I'd say its something worth thinking about if its unusually long

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

It shouldn't feel forever. I like that the longest part of booting my PC is the grub selection for my dual boot setup. I have an older laptop that takes about 2 minutes to boot. Not a deal breaker, but a noticeable delay.

I don't really care.

But it being snappy sure feels good. On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 feature making the setup unattractive, 5 being indifference, 10 being super important, booting fast is a 6.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I don't care about how long it takes to boot up, but I do care how long it takes from login to the desktop environment being usable.

Dealing with servers, I'm used to long boot up times since the low-level lifecycle management takes forever. But, once it's booted, I expect it to be ready to go. I have no patience for "Just a moment...." or "Getting things ready" after I enter my credentials. All that shit should have been taken care of during the boot up.

Thankfully, I mostly use Linux at home/work, so that's less of an issue, but it does make it all the worse when I have to remote into a Windows server.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I remember the days before fast boot, you'd sit there like it was punishment, while it counted ram, then if you hit a snag, you're in for the big hurt

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

It's a nice thing, but not a metric that I'm gonna brag about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Well, (potential) customers do care about quite a few completely useless metrics, or ta least meaningless ones. Exactly like they do with their photography gear. Marketing departments need those things to sell new device, right? ;)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I care about not having slow boot time, but I don't really care if it's fast.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The only times I cared about boot times was:

  1. When BIOS/UEFI goes by too fast and I can't hit the boot menu key fast enough.
  2. When I got my current computer back in 2022, I went from booting from HDD, to NVMe SSD over PCI-E 4.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

ha, i do remember the days of the boot menu being too fast to catch what the keystroke is, or hit the keys fast enough to trigger the bios.. too fast!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I guess I do. I put the computer (a desktop) into suspend most nights so that it's pretty much up and running as soon as I turn it on the next day.

Even so, rebooting doesn't take that long. 30 seconds tops. Definitely not enough time to visit the bathroom or make a hot drink.

But the advantages to suspend are that it's quick and all my programs are as I left them. A reboot undoes most of that.

Yes, hibernating is also an option to keep open programs, but why do that when it can be quicker?

My only real concern with putting the machine into suspend is if there's a power cut and things end up in a weird state or I lose work because programs weren't closed properly, but then, that could happen at any point when I'm using it too.

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